From: "Köry Maincent" <kory.maincent@bootlin.com>
To: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
Russ Weight <russ.weight@linux.dev>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com>,
Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
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linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
Dent Project <dentproject@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 14/17] dt-bindings: net: pse-pd: Add bindings for PD692x0 PSE controller
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 15:31:06 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240219153106.19e83213@kmaincent-XPS-13-7390> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zc8TAojumif1irE-@pengutronix.de>
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 08:47:14 +0100
Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de> wrote:
> >
> > So, either somebody needs to understand 1000BaseT and can say the
> > proposed binding works, or we explicitly document the binding is
> > limited to 10BaseT and 100BaseT.
>
> I asked the internet and found the answer: Some PSE/PD implementations
> are not compatible with 1000BaseT.
>
> See Figure 33–4—10BASE-T/100BASE-TX Endpoint PSE location overview.
> Alternative B show a variant where power is injected directly to pairs
> without using magnetics as it is done for Alternative A (phantom
> delivery - over magnetics).
>
> So, we have following variants of 2 pairs PoE:
> +---------+---------------+-------------------+---------------------+--------------------+
> | Variant | Alternative | Polarity | Power Feeding Type |
> Compatibility with | | | (a/b) | (Direct/Reverse) |
> (Direct/Phantom) | 1000BaseT |
> +=========+===============+===================+=====================+====================+
> | 1 | a | Direct | Phantom | Yes
> |
> +---------+---------------+-------------------+---------------------+--------------------+
> | 2 | a | Reverse | Phantom | Yes
> |
> +---------+---------------+-------------------+---------------------+--------------------+
> | 3 | b | Direct | Phantom | Yes
> |
> +---------+---------------+-------------------+---------------------+--------------------+
> | 4 | b | Reverse | Phantom | Yes
> |
> +---------+---------------+-------------------+---------------------+--------------------+
> | 5 | b | Direct | Direct | No
> |
> +---------+---------------+-------------------+---------------------+--------------------+
> | 6 | b | Reverse | Direct | No
> |
> +---------+---------------+-------------------+---------------------+--------------------+
Maybe we could remove the polarity column on this table as it does not bring
more information. It is also already explained on the PI pinout alternatives
table.
Also we should document that a 4pairs PSE supporting only 10/100BaseT (which
mean no magnetics on pinout AlternativeB) may not be compatible with a 4pairs
1GBaseT PD.
> For this case, it will be good if systems knows supported modes, so user
> can get this information directly. For example with ethtool
Yes.
Regards,
--
Köry Maincent, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com
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Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-02-08 13:08 [PATCH net-next v3 00/17] net: Add support for Power over Ethernet (PoE) Kory Maincent
2024-02-08 13:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 01/17] MAINTAINERS: net: Add Oleksij to pse-pd maintainers Kory Maincent
2024-02-14 17:13 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-02-15 8:19 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-02-08 13:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 02/17] of: property: Add fw_devlink support for pse parent Kory Maincent
2024-02-14 17:17 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-02-08 13:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 03/17] net: pse-pd: Rectify and adapt the naming of admin_cotrol member of struct pse_control_config Kory Maincent
2024-02-08 13:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 04/17] ethtool: Expand Ethernet Power Equipment with c33 (PoE) alongside PoDL Kory Maincent
2024-02-08 13:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 05/17] net: pse-pd: Introduce PSE types enumeration Kory Maincent
2024-02-14 17:18 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-02-08 13:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 06/17] net: ethtool: pse-pd: Expand pse commands with the PSE PoE interface Kory Maincent
2024-02-14 17:21 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-02-08 13:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 07/17] netlink: specs: Modify pse attribute prefix Kory Maincent
2024-02-14 17:22 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-02-08 13:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 08/17] netlink: specs: Expand the pse netlink command with PoE interface Kory Maincent
2024-02-14 17:22 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-02-08 13:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 09/17] MAINTAINERS: Add myself to pse networking maintainer Kory Maincent
2024-02-14 17:23 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-02-08 13:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 10/17] dt-bindings: net: pse-pd: Add another way of describing several PSE PIs Kory Maincent
2024-02-08 15:51 ` Rob Herring
2024-02-09 14:43 ` Rob Herring
2024-02-14 13:13 ` Köry Maincent
2024-02-14 15:41 ` Köry Maincent
2024-02-15 13:51 ` Rob Herring
2024-02-15 14:01 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-02-15 14:33 ` Köry Maincent
2024-02-08 13:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 11/17] net: pse-pd: Add support for " Kory Maincent
2024-02-08 13:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 12/17] net: pse-pd: Add support for setup_pi_matrix callback Kory Maincent
2024-02-08 13:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 13/17] net: pse-pd: Use regulator framework within PSE framework Kory Maincent
2024-02-08 13:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 14/17] dt-bindings: net: pse-pd: Add bindings for PD692x0 PSE controller Kory Maincent
2024-02-09 14:57 ` Rob Herring
2024-02-11 9:32 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-02-14 17:41 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-02-15 8:17 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-02-15 10:41 ` Köry Maincent
2024-02-15 12:04 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-02-15 17:51 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-02-16 7:47 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-02-17 6:46 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-02-19 14:31 ` Köry Maincent [this message]
2024-02-19 16:07 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-02-08 13:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 15/17] net: pse-pd: Add PD692x0 PSE controller driver Kory Maincent
2024-02-08 13:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 16/17] dt-bindings: net: pse-pd: Add bindings for TPS23881 PSE controller Kory Maincent
2024-02-08 15:51 ` Rob Herring
2024-02-09 11:26 ` Köry Maincent
2024-02-08 13:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 17/17] net: pse-pd: Add TI TPS23881 PSE controller driver Kory Maincent
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