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Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 18:43:16 -0700
From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
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On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 15:34:48 +0200 Jiri Pirko wrote:
> >For bigger, single purpose devices, it is just a switch, there is less
> >inconvenience of using just one vendor SDK, on top of the vendor
> >proscribed kernel.  
> 
> I'm aware of what you wrote and undertand it. I just thought Jakub's
> mixed experience is about the APIs more than the politics behind vedors
> adoptation process..

Not the API / implementation, just that the adoption is limited.
The benefits of using a standard Linux approach is outweighed by
the large pool of talent with experience programming using the SDK
of *the* vendor.