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From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org>
Cc: Vidya Sagar <vidyas@nvidia.com>,
	corbet@lwn.net, bhelgaas@google.com, galshalom@nvidia.com,
	leonro@nvidia.com, jgg@nvidia.com, treding@nvidia.com,
	jonathanh@nvidia.com, mmoshrefjava@nvidia.com,
	shahafs@nvidia.com, vsethi@nvidia.com, sdonthineni@nvidia.com,
	jan@nvidia.com, tdave@nvidia.com, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kthota@nvidia.com, mmaddireddy@nvidia.com, sagar.tv@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4] PCI: Extend ACS configurability
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:43:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241007204352.GA449721@bhelgaas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e89107da-ac99-4d3a-9527-a4df9986e120@kernel.org>

On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 07:06:41AM +0200, Jiri Slaby wrote:
> On 25. 06. 24, 17:31, Vidya Sagar wrote:
> > PCIe ACS settings control the level of isolation and the possible P2P
> > paths between devices. With greater isolation the kernel will create
> > smaller iommu_groups and with less isolation there is more HW that
> > can achieve P2P transfers. From a virtualization perspective all
> > devices in the same iommu_group must be assigned to the same VM as
> > they lack security isolation.
> > 
> > There is no way for the kernel to automatically know the correct
> > ACS settings for any given system and workload. Existing command line
> > options (ex:- disable_acs_redir) allow only for large scale change,
> > disabling all isolation, but this is not sufficient for more complex cases.
> > 
> > Add a kernel command-line option 'config_acs' to directly control all the
> > ACS bits for specific devices, which allows the operator to setup the
> > right level of isolation to achieve the desired P2P configuration.
> > The definition is future proof, when new ACS bits are added to the spec
> > the open syntax can be extended.
> > 
> > ACS needs to be setup early in the kernel boot as the ACS settings
> > effect how iommu_groups are formed. iommu_group formation is a one
> > time event during initial device discovery, changing ACS bits after
> > kernel boot can result in an inaccurate view of the iommu_groups
> > compared to the current isolation configuration.
> > 
> > ACS applies to PCIe Downstream Ports and multi-function devices.
> > The default ACS settings are strict and deny any direct traffic
> > between two functions. This results in the smallest iommu_group the
> > HW can support. Frequently these values result in slow or
> > non-working P2PDMA.
> > 
> > ACS offers a range of security choices controlling how traffic is
> > allowed to go directly between two devices. Some popular choices:
> >    - Full prevention
> >    - Translated requests can be direct, with various options
> >    - Asymmetric direct traffic, A can reach B but not the reverse
> >    - All traffic can be direct
> > Along with some other less common ones for special topologies.
> > 
> > The intention is that this option would be used with expert knowledge
> > of the HW capability and workload to achieve the desired
> > configuration.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> this breaks ACS on some platforms (in 6.11). See:
> https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1229019

#regzbot introduced: 47c8846a ("PCI: Extend ACS configurability")
#regzbot link: https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1229019

      parent reply	other threads:[~2024-10-07 20:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-21 11:09 [PATCH V2] PCI: Extend ACS configurability Vidya Sagar
2024-05-21 15:44 ` kernel test robot
2024-05-23  6:35 ` [PATCH V3] " Vidya Sagar
2024-05-23 14:59   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-05-23 15:16     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-03  7:50       ` Vidya Sagar
2024-06-07 19:30         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-06-10 11:38           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-12 21:29             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-06-12 23:23               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-13 22:05                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-06-13 23:36                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-13 22:38                 ` Alex Williamson
2024-06-12 12:19   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-25 15:31   ` [PATCH V4] " Vidya Sagar
2024-06-25 16:26     ` Lukas Wunner
2024-06-25 16:39       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-26  6:02       ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-06-26  7:40     ` Tian, Kevin
2024-06-26 11:50       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-08 14:39     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-12 21:57     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-09-25  5:06     ` Jiri Slaby
2024-09-25  5:29       ` Jiri Slaby
2024-09-25  5:49         ` Jiri Slaby
2024-10-01 19:33           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-07 16:36             ` Steffen Dirkwinkel
2024-10-07 20:43       ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]

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