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From: Luca Ceresoli <luca.ceresoli@bootlin.com>
To: Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 04/10] drm/bridge: add documentation of refcounted bridges
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2025 16:24:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250108162429.53316041@booty> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA8EJprhe4+9HwjW-=4K_LUD5pw51ij_dk0SZABbKH+ExnjdzQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Maxime, Dmitry,

thanks both for the useful review!

On Mon, 6 Jan 2025 14:24:00 +0200
Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Jan 2025 at 12:39, Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Most of these comments affect your earlier patches, but let's work on
> > the API-level view.
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 31, 2024 at 11:39:58AM +0100, Luca Ceresoli wrote:  
> > > + * When using refcounted mode, the driver should allocate ``struct
> > > + * my_bridge`` using regular allocation (as opposed to ``devm_`` or
> > > + * ``drmm_`` allocation), call drm_bridge_init() immediately afterwards to
> > > + * transfer lifecycle management to the DRM bridge core, and implement a
> > > + * ``.destroy`` function to deallocate the ``struct my_bridge``, as in this
> > > + * example::
> > > + *
> > > + *     static void my_bridge_destroy(struct drm_bridge *bridge)
> > > + *     {
> > > + *         kfree(container_of(bridge, struct my_bridge, bridge));
> > > + *     }
> > > + *
> > > + *     static const struct drm_bridge_funcs my_bridge_funcs = {
> > > + *         .destroy = my_bridge_destroy,
> > > + *         ...
> > > + *     };
> > > + *
> > > + *     static int my_bridge_probe(...)
> > > + *     {
> > > + *         struct my_bridge *mybr;
> > > + *         int err;
> > > + *
> > > + *         mybr = kzalloc(sizeof(*mybr), GFP_KERNEL);
> > > + *         if (!mybr)
> > > + *             return -ENOMEM;
> > > + *
> > > + *         err = drm_bridge_init(dev, &mybr->bridge, &my_bridge_funcs);
> > > + *         if (err)
> > > + *             return err;
> > > + *
> > > + *         ...
> > > + *         drm_bridge_add();
> > > + *         ...
> > > + *     }
> > > + *
> > > + *     static void my_bridge_remove()
> > > + *     {
> > > + *         struct my_bridge *mybr = ...;
> > > + *         drm_bridge_remove(&mybr->bridge);
> > > + *         // ... NO kfree here!
> > > + *     }  
> >
> > I'm a bit worried there, since that API is pretty difficult to get
> > right, and we don't have anything to catch bad patterns.
> >
> > Let's take a step back. What we're trying to solve here is:
> >
> >   1) We want to avoid any dangling pointers to a bridge if the bridge
> >      device is removed.
> >
> >   2) To do so, we need to switch to reference counted allocations and
> >      pointers.
> >
> >   3) Most bridges structures are allocated through devm_kzalloc, and they
> >      one that aren't are freed at remove time anyway, so the allocated
> >      structure will be gone when the device is removed.
> >
> >   4) To properly track users, each user that will use a drm_bridge needs
> >      to take a reference.  
> 
> 5) Handle the disappearing next_bridge problem: probe() function gets
> a pointer to the next bridge, but then for some reasons (e.g. because
> of the other device being removed or because of some probe deferral)
> the next_bridge driver gets unbdound and the next_bridge becomes
> unusable before a call to drm_bridge_attach().
> 
> >
> > AFAIU, the destroy introduction and the on-purpose omission of kfree in
> > remove is to solve 3.
> >
> > Introducing a function that allocates the drm_bridge container struct
> > (like drmm_encoder_alloc for example), take a reference, register a devm
> > kfree action, and return the pointer to the driver structure would solve
> > that too pretty nicely.
> >
> > So, something like:
> >
> >
> > struct driver_priv {
> >        struct drm_bridge bridge;
> >
> >        ...
> > }
> >
> > static int driver_probe(...)
> > {
> >         struct driver_priv *priv;
> >         struct drm_bridge *bridge;
> >
> >         ....
> >
> >         priv = devm_drm_bridge_alloc(dev, struct driver_priv, bridge);  
> 
> Ah... And devm-cleanup will just drop a reference to that data,
> freeing it when all refs are cleaned? Nice idea.

I like the idea. It's basically a macro wrapping the calls to kzalloc()
+ drm_bridge_init() that I proposed in this series. I had thought about
such an idea initially but I haven't seen such a macro in
drm_connector.h I didn't follow the idea.

I don't love the _alloc name though because it will be doing much more
than allocating. What about devm_drm_bridge_new()?

I understand _alloc is coherent with the drmm_encoder_alloc() and I
could survive that... but what about renaming that one to
drmm_encoder_new()?

Or maybe _create instead of _new, because _new is used for atomic
states, in opposition to _old.

> > And we'll also need some flag in drm_bridge to indicate that the device
> > is gone, similar to what drm_dev_enter()/drm_dev_exit() provides,
> > because now your bridge driver sticks around for much longer than your
> > device so the expectation that your device managed resources (clocks,
> > registers, etc.) are always going to be around.  

Yes, makes sense too. That should be a drm_bridge_enter/exit(), and
drm_bridge.c will need to be sprinkled with them I guess.

Luca

-- 
Luca Ceresoli, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-01-08 15:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-31 10:39 [PATCH v5 00/10] Add support for hot-pluggable DRM bridges Luca Ceresoli
2024-12-31 10:39 ` [PATCH v5 01/10] drm/bridge: allow bridges to be informed about added and removed bridges Luca Ceresoli
2024-12-31 10:39 ` [PATCH v5 02/10] drm/encoder: add drm_encoder_cleanup_from() Luca Ceresoli
2024-12-31 10:39 ` [PATCH v5 03/10] drm/bridge: add support for refcounted DRM bridges Luca Ceresoli
2024-12-31 11:11   ` Jani Nikula
2025-01-02 12:03     ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-01-03  9:36       ` Jani Nikula
2024-12-31 10:39 ` [PATCH v5 04/10] drm/bridge: add documentation of refcounted bridges Luca Ceresoli
2024-12-31 17:54   ` Randy Dunlap
2025-01-02 12:02     ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-01-06 10:39   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-01-06 12:24     ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-01-06 14:49       ` Maxime Ripard
2025-01-07 10:35         ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-01-07 15:12           ` Maxime Ripard
2025-01-08 15:24           ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-01-08 15:24       ` Luca Ceresoli [this message]
2025-01-08 16:02         ` Maxime Ripard
2025-01-22 16:12           ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-01-28 14:49             ` Maxime Ripard
2025-01-29 11:51               ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-01-29 12:22                 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-01-29 13:11                   ` Luca Ceresoli
2024-12-31 10:39 ` [PATCH v5 05/10] drm/tests: bridge: add KUnit tests for DRM bridges (init and destroy) Luca Ceresoli
2024-12-31 10:40 ` [PATCH v5 06/10] drm/bridge: ti-sn65dsi83: use dynamic lifetime management Luca Ceresoli
2024-12-31 10:40 ` [PATCH v5 07/10] drm/bridge: panel: " Luca Ceresoli
2024-12-31 10:40 ` [PATCH v5 08/10] drm/bridge: samsung-dsim: use supporting variable for out_bridge Luca Ceresoli
2024-12-31 14:57   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-01-02 12:01     ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-01-03  6:00       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-01-10 10:58       ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-01-16 10:32         ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-01-16 10:56           ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-01-21 11:27             ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-01-21 11:57               ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-01-28 15:52                 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-01-16 12:26           ` Maxime Ripard
2025-01-21 11:27             ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-01-28 15:09               ` Maxime Ripard
2025-01-29 11:51                 ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-04 15:44                   ` Maxime Ripard
2024-12-31 10:40 ` [PATCH v5 09/10] drm/bridge: samsung-dsim: refcount the out_bridge Luca Ceresoli
2024-12-31 14:58   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-12-31 10:40 ` [PATCH v5 10/10] drm/bridge: hotplug-bridge: add driver to support hot-pluggable DSI bridges Luca Ceresoli
2024-12-31 15:29   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-01-02 12:01     ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-09-09 15:29       ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-09-09 15:39         ` Luca Ceresoli

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