From: Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>
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Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>
Subject: [PATCH v6 2/4] mm: document (m)THP defer usage
Date: Wed, 14 May 2025 21:38:55 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250515033857.132535-3-npache@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250515033857.132535-1-npache@redhat.com>
The new defer option for (m)THPs allows for a more conservative
approach to (m)THPs. Document its usage in the transhuge admin-guide.
Reviewed-by: Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>
---
Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst | 31 ++++++++++++++++------
1 file changed, 23 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst
index 5c63fe51b3ad..7e87ef317add 100644
--- a/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst
+++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst
@@ -88,8 +88,9 @@ In certain cases when hugepages are enabled system wide, application
may end up allocating more memory resources. An application may mmap a
large region but only touch 1 byte of it, in that case a 2M page might
be allocated instead of a 4k page for no good. This is why it's
-possible to disable hugepages system-wide and to only have them inside
-MADV_HUGEPAGE madvise regions.
+possible to disable hugepages system-wide, only have them inside
+MADV_HUGEPAGE madvise regions, or defer them away from the page fault
+handler to khugepaged.
Embedded systems should enable hugepages only inside madvise regions
to eliminate any risk of wasting any precious byte of memory and to
@@ -99,6 +100,15 @@ Applications that gets a lot of benefit from hugepages and that don't
risk to lose memory by using hugepages, should use
madvise(MADV_HUGEPAGE) on their critical mmapped regions.
+Applications that would like to benefit from THPs but would still like a
+more memory conservative approach can choose 'defer'. This avoids
+inserting THPs at the page fault handler unless they are MADV_HUGEPAGE.
+Khugepaged will then scan all mappings, even those not explicitly marked
+with MADV_HUGEPAGE, for potential collapses into (m)THPs. Admins using
+this the 'defer' setting should consider tweaking max_ptes_none. The
+current default of 511 may aggressively collapse your PTEs into PMDs.
+Lower this value to conserve more memory (i.e., max_ptes_none=64).
+
.. _thp_sysfs:
sysfs
@@ -109,11 +119,14 @@ Global THP controls
Transparent Hugepage Support for anonymous memory can be entirely disabled
(mostly for debugging purposes) or only enabled inside MADV_HUGEPAGE
-regions (to avoid the risk of consuming more memory resources) or enabled
-system wide. This can be achieved per-supported-THP-size with one of::
+regions (to avoid the risk of consuming more memory resources), deferred to
+khugepaged, or enabled system wide.
+
+This can be achieved per-supported-THP-size with one of::
echo always >/sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/hugepages-<size>kB/enabled
echo madvise >/sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/hugepages-<size>kB/enabled
+ echo defer >/sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/hugepages-<size>kB/enabled
echo never >/sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/hugepages-<size>kB/enabled
where <size> is the hugepage size being addressed, the available sizes
@@ -136,6 +149,7 @@ The top-level setting (for use with "inherit") can be set by issuing
one of the following commands::
echo always >/sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/enabled
+ echo defer >/sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/enabled
echo madvise >/sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/enabled
echo never >/sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/enabled
@@ -286,7 +300,8 @@ of small pages into one large page::
A higher value leads to use additional memory for programs.
A lower value leads to gain less thp performance. Value of
max_ptes_none can waste cpu time very little, you can
-ignore it.
+ignore it. Consider lowering this value when using
+``transparent_hugepage=defer``
``max_ptes_swap`` specifies how many pages can be brought in from
swap when collapsing a group of pages into a transparent huge page::
@@ -311,14 +326,14 @@ Boot parameters
You can change the sysfs boot time default for the top-level "enabled"
control by passing the parameter ``transparent_hugepage=always`` or
-``transparent_hugepage=madvise`` or ``transparent_hugepage=never`` to the
-kernel command line.
+``transparent_hugepage=madvise`` or ``transparent_hugepage=defer`` or
+``transparent_hugepage=never`` to the kernel command line.
Alternatively, each supported anonymous THP size can be controlled by
passing ``thp_anon=<size>[KMG],<size>[KMG]:<state>;<size>[KMG]-<size>[KMG]:<state>``,
where ``<size>`` is the THP size (must be a power of 2 of PAGE_SIZE and
supported anonymous THP) and ``<state>`` is one of ``always``, ``madvise``,
-``never`` or ``inherit``.
+``defer``, ``never`` or ``inherit``.
For example, the following will set 16K, 32K, 64K THP to ``always``,
set 128K, 512K to ``inherit``, set 256K to ``madvise`` and 1M, 2M
--
2.49.0
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-15 3:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-15 3:38 [PATCH v6 0/4] mm: introduce THP deferred setting Nico Pache
2025-05-15 3:38 ` [PATCH v6 1/4] mm: defer THP insertion to khugepaged Nico Pache
2025-05-20 7:43 ` Yafang Shao
2025-06-14 11:25 ` Klara Modin
2025-06-17 17:52 ` Nico Pache
2025-05-15 3:38 ` Nico Pache [this message]
2025-05-15 3:38 ` [PATCH v6 3/4] khugepaged: add defer option to mTHP options Nico Pache
2025-05-15 3:38 ` [PATCH v6 4/4] selftests: mm: add defer to thp setting parser Nico Pache
2025-05-20 9:24 ` [PATCH v6 0/4] mm: introduce THP deferred setting Yafang Shao
2025-05-21 10:19 ` Nico Pache
2025-05-21 11:35 ` Yafang Shao
2025-05-20 9:42 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-21 10:41 ` Nico Pache
2025-05-21 11:24 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-21 11:46 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-21 12:00 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-21 12:24 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-21 12:33 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-21 12:40 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-29 4:26 ` Nico Pache
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