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From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCHv8 02/17] x86/asm: Introduce inline memcpy and memset
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2025 10:13:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250706101342.069b5068@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49f7c370-1e28-494b-96a9-f45e06ed4631@intel.com>

On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 10:13:44 -0700
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com> wrote:

> On 7/1/25 02:58, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > Extract memcpy and memset functions from copy_user_generic() and
> > __clear_user().
> > 
> > They can be used as inline memcpy and memset instead of the GCC builtins
> > whenever necessary. LASS requires them to handle text_poke.  
> 
> Why are we messing with the normal user copy functions? Code reuse is
> great, but as you're discovering, the user copy code is highly
> specialized and not that easy to reuse for other things.
> 
> Don't we just need a dirt simple chunk of code that does (logically):
> 
> 	stac();
> 	asm("rep stosq...");
> 	clac();
> 
> Performance doesn't matter for text poking, right? It could be stosq or
> anything else that you can inline. It could be a for() loop for all I
> care as long as the compiler doesn't transform it into some out-of-line
> memset. Right?
> 

It doesn't even really matter if there is an out-of-line memset.
All you need to do is 'teach' objtool it isn't a problem.

Is this for the boot-time asm-alternatives?
In that case I wonder why a 'low' address is being used?
With LASS enabled using a low address on a life kernel would make it
harder for another cpu to leverage the writable code page, but
that isn't a requirement of LASS.

If it is being used for later instruction patching you need the
very careful instruction sequences and cpu synchronisation.
In that case I suspect you need to add conditional stac/clac
to the existing patching code (and teach objtool it is all ok).

	David

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-07-06  9:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-01  9:58 [PATCHv8 00/17] x86: Enable Linear Address Space Separation support Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-01  9:58 ` [PATCHv8 01/17] x86/cpu: Enumerate the LASS feature bits Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-01  9:58 ` [PATCHv8 02/17] x86/asm: Introduce inline memcpy and memset Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-03  8:44   ` David Laight
2025-07-03 10:39     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-03 12:15       ` David Laight
2025-07-03 13:33         ` Vegard Nossum
2025-07-03 16:52           ` David Laight
2025-07-03 14:10         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-03 17:02           ` David Laight
2025-07-03 17:13   ` Dave Hansen
2025-07-04  9:04     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-06  9:13     ` David Laight [this message]
2025-07-07  8:02       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-07  9:33         ` David Laight
2025-07-01  9:58 ` [PATCHv8 03/17] x86/alternatives: Disable LASS when patching kernel alternatives Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-01 18:44   ` Sohil Mehta
2025-07-01  9:58 ` [PATCHv8 04/17] x86/cpu: Defer CR pinning setup until after EFI initialization Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-01 19:03   ` Sohil Mehta
2025-07-02  9:47     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-01 23:10   ` Dave Hansen
2025-07-02 10:05     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-04 12:23       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-01  9:58 ` [PATCHv8 05/17] efi: Disable LASS around set_virtual_address_map() EFI call Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-01  9:58 ` [PATCHv8 06/17] x86/vsyscall: Do not require X86_PF_INSTR to emulate vsyscall Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-01  9:58 ` [PATCHv8 07/17] x86/vsyscall: Reorganize the #PF emulation code Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-01  9:58 ` [PATCHv8 08/17] x86/traps: Consolidate user fixups in exc_general_protection() Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-01  9:58 ` [PATCHv8 09/17] x86/vsyscall: Add vsyscall emulation for #GP Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-01  9:58 ` [PATCHv8 10/17] x86/vsyscall: Disable LASS if vsyscall mode is set to EMULATE Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-01  9:58 ` [PATCHv8 11/17] x86/cpu: Set LASS CR4 bit as pinning sensitive Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-01 22:51   ` Sohil Mehta
2025-07-01  9:58 ` [PATCHv8 12/17] x86/traps: Communicate a LASS violation in #GP message Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-02  0:36   ` Sohil Mehta
2025-07-02 10:10     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-01  9:58 ` [PATCHv8 13/17] x86/traps: Generalize #GP address decode and hint code Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-02  0:54   ` Sohil Mehta
2025-07-01  9:58 ` [PATCHv8 14/17] x86/traps: Handle LASS thrown #SS Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-02  1:35   ` Sohil Mehta
2025-07-02  2:00     ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-07-02  2:06     ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-07-02 10:17       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-02 14:37         ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-07-02 14:47           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-02 17:10             ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-07-02 23:42       ` Andrew Cooper
2025-07-03  0:44         ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-07-06  9:22       ` David Laight
2025-07-06 15:07         ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-07-02 13:27     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-02 17:56       ` Sohil Mehta
2025-07-03 10:40         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-02 20:05       ` Sohil Mehta
2025-07-03 11:31         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-03 20:12           ` Sohil Mehta
2025-07-04  9:23             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-01  9:58 ` [PATCHv8 15/17] x86/cpu: Make LAM depend on LASS Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-01 23:03   ` Sohil Mehta
2025-07-01  9:58 ` [PATCHv8 16/17] x86/cpu: Enable LASS during CPU initialization Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-01  9:58 ` [PATCHv8 17/17] x86: Re-enable Linear Address Masking Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-01 23:13   ` Sohil Mehta

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