From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 124811FC3; Fri, 25 Jul 2025 19:59:07 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1753473548; cv=none; b=F2U+TBP4XA+rcPXejnezZirsCm3QQZIBEJ11jo7EPQOtqVvhHoA3Js6NPxwbaS97WfxWKz3ec6/SH3bamQiVYUZHq0Ymu6jYXUbDkAx3oAeiAHo9/y0Ex8XNxqTWn3OnClRKvIcuBSf4gQSwepyWwWFD7OCRo7R3PYvmPo/kCdM= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1753473548; c=relaxed/simple; bh=SEHfoYAYS7TSO9WYmdMXMA3PCP9Gw9vwFqw8aUosFRw=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VaO5AZaU0tmgmhuqfur8CNgeSYLJgIpOVWGoWWqKqBVs0RIT+yt+2oOk8N7TtlOUvl9Cf8t+s5UG057D23hZBeOyQe8rmxDnayMED8DgUMx69uKpleYM88I9Vt+IolzGuTH1Ws2MGO4o4Lt0riRb0jDa6LQrPfuO7+O38nB30Gw= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=GUdaBZGm; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="GUdaBZGm" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 420E2C4CEE7; Fri, 25 Jul 2025 19:59:07 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1753473547; bh=SEHfoYAYS7TSO9WYmdMXMA3PCP9Gw9vwFqw8aUosFRw=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=GUdaBZGmRaQHDllmOrirRXuWqOyfCz/2DWMMe/nSFRXD/dGWp8Z9nIL/h1RCxceXU C+gfJm0R1XnPkjEvNws9QbvGerXuJGD9Aw2u3SgQD1JLSN/UhxPF1KErNNcd/LjUz3 UTf4QA6u/TNxJfIAJbnOD4dqRwxHO9ic1Gf2/qJFF6ueLTTXtBi/n+zHB6OTKp9GND 72hbkHSKrevMsW1g7mrap+86EXj4QTx5mwUQT0ModfFcEMXEnw58Ou50tOeKTVnKOn HxUh81GKkzPJVeVUlSwFN50Uytkuqu+mavTsXRVBb1LM+qB6nT9k6sGkCP5GRX46oI +/QFu5+MlwmTg== Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2025 12:59:06 -0700 From: Jakub Kicinski To: Steven Rostedt Cc: Sasha Levin , workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kees@kernel.org, konstantin@linuxfoundation.org, corbet@lwn.net, josh@joshtriplett.org Subject: Re: [RFC 0/2] Add AI coding assistant configuration to Linux kernel Message-ID: <20250725125906.1db40a7f@kernel.org> In-Reply-To: <20250725150046.3adb556c@gandalf.local.home> References: <20250725175358.1989323-1-sashal@kernel.org> <20250725114114.3b13e7b1@kernel.org> <20250725150046.3adb556c@gandalf.local.home> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 15:00:46 -0400 Steven Rostedt wrote: > On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 11:41:14 -0700 > Jakub Kicinski wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 13:53:56 -0400 Sasha Levin wrote: > > > Co-developed-by: Claude claude-opus-4-20250514 > > > --- > > > Documentation/power/opp.rst | 2 +- > > > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) > > > > I think we should suggest that the tag is under --- ? > > It's only relevant during the review. Once the patch is committed > > whether the code was organic or generated by Corp XYZ's Banana AI > > is just free advertising.. > > What's the difference between that and others using their corporate email? > I even add (Google) to my SoB to denote who is paying me to do the work. To be clear, it's not my main point, my main point is that the information is of no proven use right now. As long as committer follows the BKP of adding Link: https://patch.msgid.link/... we can find the metadata later. We never found the need to attach the exact version of smatch / sparse / cocci that found the bug or "wrote" a patch. Let us not overreact to the AI tools. > Also, I would argue that it would be useful in the change log as if there's > a bug in the generated code, you know who or *what* to blame. Especially if > there is a pattern to be found. This touches on explainability of AI. Perhaps the metadata would be interesting for XAI research... not sure that's enough to be lugging those tags in git history.