From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from relay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0015.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C09214A82; Mon, 28 Jul 2025 17:47:04 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=216.40.44.15 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1753724827; cv=none; b=JBsuyfDSBYfmyhQYJB0TFa6xQt7v7pDkbnJ9vzt3qZM2gNPfH9TdJpaBHpDcc6xA1HPqajhJu5SbQlyO9THnWB3EExa+9KRMA00POarrkmxjOcOUdljSMQOMAc5lQqTzbI55o++RwXCzVS4+wjc1druoGF7Cd6nMlK96Gv1rsDI= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1753724827; c=relaxed/simple; bh=SyEMmCynzYvjf3flGglcVAa+hzKsh3WstJS1XG/DGcg=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Aa64bBdmuJBUJ8TwbW6C8hHqH1H4EzvKwN1A2HjCcT/iv7FAC1aYzDcE/eGD/66CVcuFtHcXgAavB2J1y4bA+AGgvjQ1HaECVV21NNWve2uETX28rem+Ynxsaaijfok9alJW7QNRv8LP+TVVRVW9rb+CBrq2qc6LnNsi6PsBIfo= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=goodmis.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=goodmis.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=216.40.44.15 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=goodmis.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=goodmis.org Received: from omf11.hostedemail.com (a10.router.float.18 [10.200.18.1]) by unirelay08.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42EC414033A; Mon, 28 Jul 2025 17:46:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [HIDDEN] (Authenticated sender: rostedt@goodmis.org) by omf11.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id B1D7D20029; Mon, 28 Jul 2025 17:46:54 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2025 13:46:53 -0400 From: Steven Rostedt To: Cc: Jakub Kicinski , Sasha Levin , , , , , , , Subject: Re: [RFC 0/2] Add AI coding assistant configuration to Linux kernel Message-ID: <20250728134653.635a9dc5@batman.local.home> In-Reply-To: <6883ea58b5685_134cc71006e@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com.notmuch> References: <20250725175358.1989323-1-sashal@kernel.org> <20250725114114.3b13e7b1@kernel.org> <20250725150046.3adb556c@gandalf.local.home> <20250725125906.1db40a7f@kernel.org> <6883ea58b5685_134cc71006e@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com.notmuch> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.8 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Stat-Signature: bjgchuyfosmjyw7o5oaiyjckgqa4uuke X-Rspamd-Server: rspamout07 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B1D7D20029 X-Session-Marker: 726F737465647440676F6F646D69732E6F7267 X-Session-ID: U2FsdGVkX195WzT8efG1fpm/htR1plhPRRieXnXT+x0= X-HE-Tag: 1753724814-914488 X-HE-Meta: U2FsdGVkX18i2DLUVpuJ9Gwx6Ro32Ea8BbhE2AjXbjKqEA8lLJsy5OEkOsO6UTQSSodrpfv409xkX27w7TdcNKWsTIUV74P37xkbx2YHS7ZsgeZNAyG5HHHmkI4K6R3mfrVfmLLfu4LrFIPmiCnf8/92FjYUBYM3OKWE53pfTE1afTDIQY+yRA1psg4xig7H3ySgu4baSQCgW/zPOqsFPBstf8l6l6BTj6LEssljQexihf91uYW2C7rO7y5LG1QGaX30+U2pw7w1OEqns3r38b5uGM3rQOnCtHxCSCBmEhQce2VTFzLRAJuC+K3kSduRZ0+afHxnxRffPEz65zBt2kNCgcdfvjDg On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 13:34:32 -0700 wrote: > > This touches on explainability of AI. Perhaps the metadata would be > > interesting for XAI research... not sure that's enough to be lugging > > those tags in git history. > > Agree. The "who to blame" is "Author:". They signed DCO they are > responsible for debugging what went wrong in any stage of the > development of a patch per usual. We have a long history of debugging > tool problems without tracking tool versions in git history. My point of the "who to blame" was not about the author of said code, but if two or more developers are using the same AI agent and then some patter of bugs appears that is only with that AI agent, then we know that the AI agent is likely the culprit and to look for code by other developers that used that same AI agent. It's a way to track down a bug in a tool that is creating code, not about moving blame from a developer to the agent itself. -- Steve