From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 29/30] luo: allow preserving memfd
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2025 13:20:19 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250826162019.GD2130239@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250807014442.3829950-30-pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
On Thu, Aug 07, 2025 at 01:44:35AM +0000, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
> + /*
> + * Most of the space should be taken by preserved folios. So take its
> + * size, plus a page for other properties.
> + */
> + fdt = memfd_luo_create_fdt(PAGE_ALIGN(preserved_size) + PAGE_SIZE);
> + if (!fdt) {
> + err = -ENOMEM;
> + goto err_unpin;
> + }
This doesn't seem to have any versioning scheme, it really should..
> + err = fdt_property_placeholder(fdt, "folios", preserved_size,
> + (void **)&preserved_folios);
> + if (err) {
> + pr_err("Failed to reserve folios property in FDT: %s\n",
> + fdt_strerror(err));
> + err = -ENOMEM;
> + goto err_free_fdt;
> + }
Yuk.
This really wants some luo helper
'luo alloc array'
'luo restore array'
'luo free array'
Which would get a linearized list of pages in the vmap to hold the
array and then allocate some structure to record the page list and
return back the u64 of the phys_addr of the top of the structure to
store in whatever.
Getting fdt to allocate the array inside the fds is just not going to
work for anything of size.
> + for (; i < nr_pfolios; i++) {
> + const struct memfd_luo_preserved_folio *pfolio = &pfolios[i];
> + phys_addr_t phys;
> + u64 index;
> + int flags;
> +
> + if (!pfolio->foliodesc)
> + continue;
> +
> + phys = PFN_PHYS(PRESERVED_FOLIO_PFN(pfolio->foliodesc));
> + folio = kho_restore_folio(phys);
> + if (!folio) {
> + pr_err("Unable to restore folio at physical address: %llx\n",
> + phys);
> + goto put_file;
> + }
> + index = pfolio->index;
> + flags = PRESERVED_FOLIO_FLAGS(pfolio->foliodesc);
> +
> + /* Set up the folio for insertion. */
> + /*
> + * TODO: Should find a way to unify this and
> + * shmem_alloc_and_add_folio().
> + */
> + __folio_set_locked(folio);
> + __folio_set_swapbacked(folio);
>
> + ret = mem_cgroup_charge(folio, NULL, mapping_gfp_mask(mapping));
> + if (ret) {
> + pr_err("shmem: failed to charge folio index %d: %d\n",
> + i, ret);
> + goto unlock_folio;
> + }
[..]
> + folio_add_lru(folio);
> + folio_unlock(folio);
> + folio_put(folio);
> + }
Probably some consolidation will be needed to make this less
duplicated..
But overall I think just using the memfd_luo_preserved_folio as the
serialization is entirely file, I don't think this needs anything more
complicated.
What it does need is an alternative to the FDT with versioning.
Which seems to me to be entirely fine as:
struct memfd_luo_v0 {
__aligned_u64 size;
__aligned_u64 pos;
__aligned_u64 folios;
};
struct memfd_luo_v0 memfd_luo_v0 = {.size = size, pos = file->f_pos, folios = folios};
luo_store_object(&memfd_luo_v0, sizeof(memfd_luo_v0), <.. identifier for this fd..>, /*version=*/0);
Which also shows the actual data needing to be serialized comes from
more than one struct and has to be marshaled in code, somehow, to a
single struct.
Then I imagine a fairly simple forwards/backwards story. If something
new is needed that is non-optional, lets say you compress the folios
list to optimize holes:
struct memfd_luo_v1 {
__aligned_u64 size;
__aligned_u64 pos;
__aligned_u64 folios_list_with_holes;
};
Obviously a v0 kernel cannot parse this, but in this case a v1 aware
kernel could optionally duplicate and write out the v0 format as well:
luo_store_object(&memfd_luo_v0, sizeof(memfd_luo_v0), <.. identifier for this fd..>, /*version=*/0);
luo_store_object(&memfd_luo_v1, sizeof(memfd_luo_v1), <.. identifier for this fd..>, /*version=*/1);
Then the rule is fairly simple, when the sucessor kernel goes to
deserialize it asks luo for the versions it supports:
if (luo_restore_object(&memfd_luo_v1, sizeof(memfd_luo_v1), <.. identifier for this fd..>, /*version=*/1))
restore_v1(&memfd_luo_v1)
else if (luo_restore_object(&memfd_luo_v0, sizeof(memfd_luo_v0), <.. identifier for this fd..>, /*version=*/0))
restore_v0(&memfd_luo_v0)
else
luo_failure("Do not understand this");
luo core just manages this list of versioned data per serialized
object. There is only one version per object.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-26 16:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-07 1:44 [PATCH v3 00/30] Live Update Orchestrator Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 01/30] kho: init new_physxa->phys_bits to fix lockdep Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 11:42 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-08 11:52 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-08 14:00 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 19:06 ` Andrew Morton
2025-08-08 19:51 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 20:19 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-14 13:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-14 14:57 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 02/30] kho: mm: Don't allow deferred struct page with KHO Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 11:47 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-08 14:01 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 03/30] kho: warn if KHO is disabled due to an error Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 11:48 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 04/30] kho: allow to drive kho from within kernel Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 05/30] kho: make debugfs interface optional Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 06/30] kho: drop notifiers Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 07/30] kho: add interfaces to unpreserve folios and physical memory ranges Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-14 13:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-14 15:05 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-14 17:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-15 9:12 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-08-18 13:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 08/30] kho: don't unpreserve memory during abort Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-14 13:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 09/30] liveupdate: kho: move to kernel/liveupdate Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-30 8:35 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 10/30] liveupdate: luo_core: luo_ioctl: Live Update Orchestrator Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-14 13:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 11/30] liveupdate: luo_core: integrate with KHO Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 12/30] liveupdate: luo_subsystems: add subsystem registration Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 13/30] liveupdate: luo_subsystems: implement subsystem callbacks Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 14/30] liveupdate: luo_files: add infrastructure for FDs Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 15/30] liveupdate: luo_files: implement file systems callbacks Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 16/30] liveupdate: luo_ioctl: add userpsace interface Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-14 13:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 17/30] liveupdate: luo_files: luo_ioctl: Unregister all FDs on device close Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-27 15:34 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 18/30] liveupdate: luo_files: luo_ioctl: Add ioctls for per-file state management Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-14 14:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 19/30] liveupdate: luo_sysfs: add sysfs state monitoring Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-26 16:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-26 18:58 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 20/30] reboot: call liveupdate_reboot() before kexec Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 21/30] kho: move kho debugfs directory to liveupdate Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 22/30] liveupdate: add selftests for subsystems un/registration Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 23/30] selftests/liveupdate: add subsystem/state tests Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 24/30] docs: add luo documentation Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 25/30] MAINTAINERS: add liveupdate entry Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 26/30] mm: shmem: use SHMEM_F_* flags instead of VM_* flags Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-11 23:11 ` Vipin Sharma
2025-08-13 12:42 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 27/30] mm: shmem: allow freezing inode mapping Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 28/30] mm: shmem: export some functions to internal.h Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 29/30] luo: allow preserving memfd Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 20:22 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-13 12:44 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-13 6:34 ` Vipin Sharma
2025-08-13 7:09 ` Greg KH
2025-08-13 12:02 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-13 12:14 ` Greg KH
2025-08-13 12:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-13 13:00 ` Greg KH
2025-08-13 13:37 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-13 13:41 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-13 13:53 ` Greg KH
2025-08-13 13:53 ` Greg KH
2025-08-13 20:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-13 13:31 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-13 12:29 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-13 13:49 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-13 13:55 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-26 16:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2025-08-27 15:03 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-28 12:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-28 23:00 ` Chris Li
2025-09-01 17:10 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-02 13:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-03 14:10 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-03 15:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2025-08-28 7:14 ` Mike Rapoport
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2025-09-01 16:23 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-09-01 16:54 ` Pasha Tatashin
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2025-09-02 11:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2025-09-03 19:39 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-09-04 12:39 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 30/30] docs: add documentation for memfd preservation via LUO Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 00/30] Live Update Orchestrator David Hildenbrand
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