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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: "Jani Nikula" <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	"Linux Doc Mailing List" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>, "Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 08/19] tools/docs: sphinx-build-wrapper: add a wrapper for sphinx-build
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2025 10:28:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250912102813.6ea711ca@foz.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zfb1p0r3.fsf@trenco.lwn.net>

Em Thu, 11 Sep 2025 07:38:56 -0600
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net> escreveu:

> Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org> writes:
> 
> > On Thu, Sep 11, 2025 at 01:23:55PM +0300, Jani Nikula wrote:  
> >> > 1. SPHINXDIRS. It needs a lot of magic to work, both before running
> >> >    sphinx-build and after (inside conf.py);  
> >> 
> >> Makes you wonder if that's the right solution to the original
> >> problem. It was added as a kind of hack, and it stuck.  
> >
> > The problem is, IMHO, due to the lack of flexibility of sphinx-build:
> > It should have a way on it to do partial documentation builds.  
> 
> A couple of times I have looked into using intersphinx, making each book
> into an actually separate book.  The thing I always run into is that
> doing a complete docs build, with working references, would require
> building everything twice.  This is probably worth another attempt one
> of these years...

The big advantage of intersphinx is for PDF and LaTeX output, as
this is the only way to have cross-references there.

It is also good for subsystem-specific books (or "sub-"books) like:

	- Documentation/admin-guide/media/
	- Documentation/driver-api/media/
	- Documentation/userspace-api/media/

Right now, we create a single book with all those tree, but I would
prefer to build each of them as separate units, as they are for separated
audiences, but only if cross-references will be solved in a way that
html and pdf docs will point to the other books stored at linuxtv.org.

For html, this won't be any different, in practice, from what we have,
but for PDF and ePub, this would mean smaller books.

Thanks,
Mauro

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-09-12  8:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-04  7:33 [PATCH v4 00/19] Split sphinx call logic from docs Makefile Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04  7:33 ` [PATCH v4 01/19] scripts/jobserver-exec: move the code to a class Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04  7:33 ` [PATCH v4 02/19] scripts/jobserver-exec: move its class to the lib directory Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04  7:33 ` [PATCH v4 03/19] scripts/jobserver-exec: add a help message Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04  7:33 ` [PATCH v4 04/19] scripts: sphinx-pre-install: move it to tools/docs Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 16:42   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-05  7:39     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-05 12:25     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04  7:33 ` [PATCH v4 05/19] tools/docs: python_version: move version check from sphinx-pre-install Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-10 10:14   ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-10 12:24     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-11 10:28       ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-11 10:45         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04  7:33 ` [PATCH v4 06/19] tools/docs: python_version: drop a debug print Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04  7:33 ` [PATCH v4 07/19] tools/docs: python_version: allow check for alternatives and bail out Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04  7:33 ` [PATCH v4 08/19] tools/docs: sphinx-build-wrapper: add a wrapper for sphinx-build Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-09 14:53   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-09 15:59     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-09 18:56       ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-09 20:53         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-09 15:21   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-09 16:06     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-10 10:46   ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-10 12:59     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-10 13:33       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-12 10:15         ` Akira Yokosawa
2025-09-12 11:04           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-12 14:03             ` Akira Yokosawa
2025-09-12 14:50               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-15  8:27                 ` Akira Yokosawa
2025-09-15 10:58                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-15 12:54                     ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-15 13:50                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-15 14:33                         ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-15 15:05                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-11 10:23       ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-11 11:37         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-11 13:38           ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-11 19:33             ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-11 19:47               ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-12  8:06                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-12 10:16                   ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-12 11:34                     ` Vegard Nossum
2025-09-13 10:18                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-12 11:41                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-12  8:28             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2025-09-04  7:33 ` [PATCH v4 09/19] tools/docs: sphinx-build-wrapper: add comments and blank lines Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04  7:33 ` [PATCH v4 10/19] tools/docs: sphinx-build-wrapper: add support to run inside venv Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-10 10:51   ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-12  8:46     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-12  9:22       ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-12 12:34         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04  7:33 ` [PATCH v4 11/19] docs: parallel-wrapper.sh: remove script Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04  7:33 ` [PATCH v4 12/19] docs: Makefile: document latex/PDF PAPER= parameter Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-10 10:54   ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-12  8:56     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-12  9:23       ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-12 10:34         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04  7:33 ` [PATCH v4 13/19] tools/docs: sphinx-build-wrapper: add an argument for LaTeX interactive mode Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04  7:33 ` [PATCH v4 14/19] tools/docs,scripts: sphinx-*: prevent sphinx-build crashes Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04  7:33 ` [PATCH v4 15/19] tools/docs: sphinx-build-wrapper: allow building PDF files in parallel Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04  7:33 ` [PATCH v4 16/19] docs: add support to build manpages from kerneldoc output Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04  7:33 ` [PATCH v4 17/19] tools: kernel-doc: add a see also section at man pages Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04  7:33 ` [PATCH v4 18/19] scripts: kdoc_parser.py: warn about Python version only once Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04  7:33 ` [PATCH v4 19/19] tools/docs: sphinx-* break documentation bulds on openSUSE Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-05 16:07 ` [PATCH v4 00/19] Split sphinx call logic from docs Makefile Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-06  9:40   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab

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