From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>
To: Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum@oracle.com>
Cc: "Jani Nikula" <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
"Linux Doc Mailing List" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>, "Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 08/19] tools/docs: sphinx-build-wrapper: add a wrapper for sphinx-build
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2025 12:18:25 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250913121825.002c8edc@foz.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3cc0d2bb-d7f7-4e8d-96d5-35863da244b0@oracle.com>
Em Fri, 12 Sep 2025 13:34:17 +0200
Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum@oracle.com> escreveu:
> On 12/09/2025 12:16, Jani Nikula wrote:
> >> Here, any time increase is problematic, and SPHINXDIRS play an important
> >> hole by allowing them to build only the touched documents.
> > This is actually problematic, because the SPHINXDIRS partial builds will
> > give you warnings for unresolved references that are just fine if the
> > entire documentation gets built.
>
> I admit I don't have a full overview of all the problems that are being
> solved here (in existing and proposed code), but how hard would it be to
> convert the whole SPHINXDIRS thing into a Sphinx plugin that runs early
> and discards documents outside of what the user wants to build? By
> "discards" I mean in some useful way that reduces runtime compared to a
> full build while retaining some benefits of a full build (reference
> checking)?
That's not a bad idea, but I guess it is not too easy to implement - at
least inside a Sphinx plugin.
The good news is that conf.py has already a logic to ignore patterns that
could be tweaked and/or placed on a plugin.
The bad news is that existing index.rst files will now reference
non-existing docs. No idea how to "process" them to filter out
such docs. It is probably doable. See, SPHINXDIRS supports pinpointing
any directory, not just Documentation child directories. So, eventually,
such plugin would also need to "fake" the main index.rst. Now, the
question is, if we pick for instance:
SPHINXDIRS="netlink/spec networking"
What would be the main title that would be at the main index.rst?
I suspect that, for such cases, the title of the index would need
to be manually set at the command line interface.
Another aspect is that SPHINXDIRS affect latex document lists,
which can be problematic.
Thanks,
Mauro
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-13 10:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-04 7:33 [PATCH v4 00/19] Split sphinx call logic from docs Makefile Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 01/19] scripts/jobserver-exec: move the code to a class Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 02/19] scripts/jobserver-exec: move its class to the lib directory Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 03/19] scripts/jobserver-exec: add a help message Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 04/19] scripts: sphinx-pre-install: move it to tools/docs Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 16:42 ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-05 7:39 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-05 12:25 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 05/19] tools/docs: python_version: move version check from sphinx-pre-install Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-10 10:14 ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-10 12:24 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-11 10:28 ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-11 10:45 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 06/19] tools/docs: python_version: drop a debug print Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 07/19] tools/docs: python_version: allow check for alternatives and bail out Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 08/19] tools/docs: sphinx-build-wrapper: add a wrapper for sphinx-build Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-09 14:53 ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-09 15:59 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-09 18:56 ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-09 20:53 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-09 15:21 ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-09 16:06 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-10 10:46 ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-10 12:59 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-10 13:33 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-12 10:15 ` Akira Yokosawa
2025-09-12 11:04 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-12 14:03 ` Akira Yokosawa
2025-09-12 14:50 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-15 8:27 ` Akira Yokosawa
2025-09-15 10:58 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-15 12:54 ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-15 13:50 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-15 14:33 ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-15 15:05 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-11 10:23 ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-11 11:37 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-11 13:38 ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-11 19:33 ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-11 19:47 ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-12 8:06 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-12 10:16 ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-12 11:34 ` Vegard Nossum
2025-09-13 10:18 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2025-09-12 11:41 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-12 8:28 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 09/19] tools/docs: sphinx-build-wrapper: add comments and blank lines Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 10/19] tools/docs: sphinx-build-wrapper: add support to run inside venv Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-10 10:51 ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-12 8:46 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-12 9:22 ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-12 12:34 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 11/19] docs: parallel-wrapper.sh: remove script Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 12/19] docs: Makefile: document latex/PDF PAPER= parameter Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-10 10:54 ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-12 8:56 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-12 9:23 ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-12 10:34 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 13/19] tools/docs: sphinx-build-wrapper: add an argument for LaTeX interactive mode Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 14/19] tools/docs,scripts: sphinx-*: prevent sphinx-build crashes Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 15/19] tools/docs: sphinx-build-wrapper: allow building PDF files in parallel Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 16/19] docs: add support to build manpages from kerneldoc output Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 17/19] tools: kernel-doc: add a see also section at man pages Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 18/19] scripts: kdoc_parser.py: warn about Python version only once Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 19/19] tools/docs: sphinx-* break documentation bulds on openSUSE Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-05 16:07 ` [PATCH v4 00/19] Split sphinx call logic from docs Makefile Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-06 9:40 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
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