From: SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>
To: SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
"# 6 . 0 . x" <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
damon@lists.linux.dev, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: (sashiko review) [PATCH 2/2] Docs/admin-guide/mm/damon/lru_sort: warn commit_inputs vs param updates race
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2026 08:55:18 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260329155518.48149-1-sj@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260329154955.47813-1-sj@kernel.org>
On Sun, 29 Mar 2026 08:49:54 -0700 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
> Forwarding Sashiko review for doing discussions via mails.
>
> # review url: https://sashiko.dev/#/patchset/20260329153052.46657-3-sj@kernel.org
> # start of sashiko.dev inline review
> commit 7f5e14b7be3b4aea36d62a6c529ef25dde22e973
> Author: SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>
>
> Docs/admin-guide/mm/damon/lru_sort: warn commit_inputs vs param updates race
>
> This commit updates the DAMON LRU_SORT documentation to warn users against
> modifying module parameters while the kdamond thread is processing a
> commit_inputs request. It states that violating this rule can cause races
> and undefined behavior in the kernel.
>
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/20260319161620.189392-2-objecting@objecting.org
>
> > diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/damon/lru_sort.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/damon/lru_sort.rst
> > index a7dea7c75a9b..14cc6b2db897 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/damon/lru_sort.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/damon/lru_sort.rst
> > @@ -79,6 +79,10 @@ of parametrs except ``enabled`` again. Once the re-reading is done, this
> > parameter is set as ``N``. If invalid parameters are found while the
> > re-reading, DAMON_LRU_SORT will be disabled.
> >
> > +Once ``Y`` is written to this parameter, the user must not write to any
> > +parameters until reading ``commit_inputs`` again returns ``N``. If users
> > +violate this rule, the kernel may exhibit undefined behavior.
>
> Is it safe to rely on userspace following documentation to prevent kernel
> data races?
>
> The kernel is generally expected to be robust against concurrent or unexpected
> userspace inputs. Does addressing a data race with a documentation warning
> leave the kernel vulnerable to crashes or instability if a user ignores this
> rule?
>
> Could this underlying race condition be resolved with proper synchronization,
> such as locks or mutexes, rather than documenting the undefined behavior?
I answered same question on the previous version of this patch. In short, I
think this is ok for stable kernels. For mainline, Liew's patch [1] that can
fix this issue together is on the way.
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/20260329075415.36775-1-aethernet65535@gmail.com
Thanks,
SJ
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Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-29 15:30 [PATCH 0/2] Docs/admin-guide/mm/damon: warn commit_inputs vs other params race SeongJae Park
2026-03-29 15:30 ` [PATCH 1/2] Docs/admin-guide/mm/damon/reclaim: warn commit_inputs vs param updates race SeongJae Park
2026-03-29 15:49 ` (sashiko review) " SeongJae Park
2026-03-29 15:54 ` SeongJae Park
2026-03-29 15:30 ` [PATCH 2/2] Docs/admin-guide/mm/damon/lru_sort: " SeongJae Park
2026-03-29 15:49 ` (sashiko review) " SeongJae Park
2026-03-29 15:55 ` SeongJae Park [this message]
2026-03-29 15:49 ` (sashiko status) [PATCH 0/2] Docs/admin-guide/mm/damon: warn commit_inputs vs other params race SeongJae Park
2026-03-29 16:31 ` SeongJae Park
2026-03-29 18:05 ` Greg KH
2026-03-29 19:32 ` SeongJae Park
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