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From: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
To: Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 02/10] x86/bhi: Make clear_bhb_loop() effective on newer CPUs
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2026 11:52:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260403185236.sjgetnkha3o3a4d3@desk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALMp9eSLVvr00mJ0J2f2_SPeCW-VS58kxMcxHgUW6etML+_+QA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Apr 03, 2026 at 11:10:08AM -0700, Jim Mattson wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2026 at 5:32 PM Pawan Gupta
> <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > As a mitigation for BHI, clear_bhb_loop() executes branches that overwrite
> > the Branch History Buffer (BHB). On Alder Lake and newer parts this
> > sequence is not sufficient because it doesn't clear enough entries. This
> > was not an issue because these CPUs use the BHI_DIS_S hardware mitigation
> > in the kernel.
> >
> > Now with VMSCAPE (BHI variant) it is also required to isolate branch
> > history between guests and userspace. Since BHI_DIS_S only protects the
> > kernel, the newer CPUs also use IBPB.
> >
> > A cheaper alternative to the current IBPB mitigation is clear_bhb_loop().
> > But it currently does not clear enough BHB entries to be effective on newer
> > CPUs with larger BHB. At boot, dynamically set the loop count of
> > clear_bhb_loop() such that it is effective on newer CPUs too. Use the
> > X86_FEATURE_BHI_CTRL feature flag to select the appropriate loop count.
> >
> > Suggested-by: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
> > ---
> >  arch/x86/entry/entry_64.S            |  8 +++++---
> >  arch/x86/include/asm/nospec-branch.h |  2 ++
> >  arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c           | 13 +++++++++++++
> >  3 files changed, 20 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/entry/entry_64.S b/arch/x86/entry/entry_64.S
> > index 3a180a36ca0e..bbd4b1c7ec04 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/entry/entry_64.S
> > +++ b/arch/x86/entry/entry_64.S
> > @@ -1536,7 +1536,9 @@ SYM_FUNC_START(clear_bhb_loop)
> >         ANNOTATE_NOENDBR
> >         push    %rbp
> >         mov     %rsp, %rbp
> > -       movl    $5, %ecx
> > +
> > +       movzbl    bhb_seq_outer_loop(%rip), %ecx
> > +
> >         ANNOTATE_INTRA_FUNCTION_CALL
> >         call    1f
> >         jmp     5f
> > @@ -1556,8 +1558,8 @@ SYM_FUNC_START(clear_bhb_loop)
> >          * This should be ideally be: .skip 32 - (.Lret2 - 2f), 0xcc
> >          * but some Clang versions (e.g. 18) don't like this.
> >          */
> > -       .skip 32 - 18, 0xcc
> > -2:     movl    $5, %eax
> > +       .skip 32 - 20, 0xcc
> > +2:     movzbl  bhb_seq_inner_loop(%rip), %eax
> >  3:     jmp     4f
> >         nop
> >  4:     sub     $1, %eax
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/nospec-branch.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/nospec-branch.h
> > index 70b377fcbc1c..87b83ae7c97f 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/nospec-branch.h
> > +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/nospec-branch.h
> > @@ -548,6 +548,8 @@ DECLARE_PER_CPU(u64, x86_spec_ctrl_current);
> >  extern void update_spec_ctrl_cond(u64 val);
> >  extern u64 spec_ctrl_current(void);
> >
> > +extern u8 bhb_seq_inner_loop, bhb_seq_outer_loop;
> > +
> >  /*
> >   * With retpoline, we must use IBRS to restrict branch prediction
> >   * before calling into firmware.
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c
> > index 83f51cab0b1e..2cb4a96247d8 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c
> > +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c
> > @@ -2047,6 +2047,10 @@ enum bhi_mitigations {
> >  static enum bhi_mitigations bhi_mitigation __ro_after_init =
> >         IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_MITIGATION_SPECTRE_BHI) ? BHI_MITIGATION_AUTO : BHI_MITIGATION_OFF;
> >
> > +/* Default to short BHB sequence values */
> > +u8 bhb_seq_outer_loop __ro_after_init = 5;
> > +u8 bhb_seq_inner_loop __ro_after_init = 5;
> > +
> >  static int __init spectre_bhi_parse_cmdline(char *str)
> >  {
> >         if (!str)
> > @@ -3242,6 +3246,15 @@ void __init cpu_select_mitigations(void)
> >                 x86_spec_ctrl_base &= ~SPEC_CTRL_MITIGATIONS_MASK;
> >         }
> >
> > +       /*
> > +        * Switch to long BHB clear sequence on newer CPUs (with BHI_CTRL
> > +        * support), see Intel's BHI guidance.
> > +        */
> > +       if (cpu_feature_enabled(X86_FEATURE_BHI_CTRL)) {
> > +               bhb_seq_outer_loop = 12;
> > +               bhb_seq_inner_loop = 7;
> > +       }
> > +
> 
> How does this work for VMs in a heterogeneous migration pool that
> spans the Alder Lake boundary? They can't advertise BHI_CTRL, because
> it isn't available on all hosts in the migration pool, but they need
> the long sequence when running on Alder Lake or newer.

As we discussed elsewhere, support for migration pool is much more
involved. It should be dealt in a separate QEMU/KVM focused series.

A quickfix could be adding support for spectre_bhi=long that guests in a
migration pool can use?

> Previously, I considered such a migration pool infeasible, because of
> the change in MAXPHYADDR, but I now predict that I will lose that
> battle.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-03 18:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-03  0:30 [PATCH v9 00/10] VMSCAPE optimization for BHI variant Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03  0:30 ` [PATCH v9 01/10] x86/bhi: x86/vmscape: Move LFENCE out of clear_bhb_loop() Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03 15:16   ` Borislav Petkov
2026-04-03 16:45     ` Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03 17:11       ` Borislav Petkov
2026-04-03  0:31 ` [PATCH v9 02/10] x86/bhi: Make clear_bhb_loop() effective on newer CPUs Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03 18:10   ` Jim Mattson
2026-04-03 18:52     ` Pawan Gupta [this message]
2026-04-03 20:19       ` Jim Mattson
2026-04-03 21:34         ` Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03 21:59           ` Jim Mattson
2026-04-03 23:16             ` Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03 23:22               ` Jim Mattson
2026-04-03 23:33                 ` Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03 23:39                   ` Jim Mattson
2026-04-04  0:21                     ` Pawan Gupta
2026-04-04  2:21                       ` Jim Mattson
2026-04-04  3:49                         ` Pawan Gupta
2026-04-06 14:23                           ` Jim Mattson
2026-04-03  0:31 ` [PATCH v9 03/10] x86/bhi: Rename clear_bhb_loop() to clear_bhb_loop_nofence() Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03  0:31 ` [PATCH v9 04/10] x86/vmscape: Rename x86_ibpb_exit_to_user to x86_predictor_flush_exit_to_user Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03  0:31 ` [PATCH v9 05/10] x86/vmscape: Move mitigation selection to a switch() Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03  0:32 ` [PATCH v9 06/10] x86/vmscape: Use write_ibpb() instead of indirect_branch_prediction_barrier() Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03  0:32 ` [PATCH v9 07/10] x86/vmscape: Use static_call() for predictor flush Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03 14:52   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-03 16:44     ` Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03 17:26       ` Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03  0:32 ` [PATCH v9 08/10] x86/vmscape: Deploy BHB clearing mitigation Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03  0:32 ` [PATCH v9 09/10] x86/vmscape: Resolve conflict between attack-vectors and vmscape=force Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03  0:33 ` [PATCH v9 10/10] x86/vmscape: Add cmdline vmscape=on to override attack vector controls Pawan Gupta
2026-04-04 15:20 ` [PATCH v9 00/10] VMSCAPE optimization for BHI variant David Laight
2026-04-05  7:23   ` Pawan Gupta

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