From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 477703A7F61; Thu, 23 Apr 2026 02:38:32 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1776911912; cv=none; b=I7lFbKzeqfVPODe8cb2Iqao2gXl1Q0nJ3EZZFzad1hYzPVL+H6g9qBMyGioUyOlAQY6SB29hPuo1G3lumNMsKNM7GHHqyWXdf0WC6MXNkrqD53mjcbmgcg1rlr3e2D4j4+rnj7W+/0W3L65+o8wmBpn/uiNCj4XdNA/bAIjglz4= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1776911912; c=relaxed/simple; bh=7HQSrbuMx/rshmSLfm00CK6rla06OEjtmcvJSRGnOjY=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mcy2fIQORusAM3W0cTle0RqRVi81M9Y7Gpqq3WK12ha9LP1/FwxHJhEBRs+J90dLumjB4Y254wNOhvDGf/SqZggDAETqGmf5ePLKD/W1UXtT6ZgTc604l4SO/XW3SZ2X3oFN9Jo2HnAQhs5drB4cCnl5vDP0zCRDkvMlp0kpWI0= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=prvyABly; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="prvyABly" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7B354C19425; Thu, 23 Apr 2026 02:38:30 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1776911911; bh=7HQSrbuMx/rshmSLfm00CK6rla06OEjtmcvJSRGnOjY=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=prvyABlyIBh76ipwT0Afooq3T3f6JlD/yCFjPoSCymJl3aylCSjP6Kgv6P+8HJVc9 7aGu7xLaYmd8MZUomu6ml+HSk0MZqBBwFhwGr6Ys73P8lChfUFlcP9g0h9xpIOyvmE QOWO+F+sTBZVg7XnJOmb+wh2BQR/8m6Ry8iDoNT9Kcs4faHr9nOlsJIQj2Bai54J7h VL89KdofK8lO10crs15R4zUBxqWmHokA3Fi+4ikMGqNxNLWnsOAULtv7ToMihHLvqR WDzjNYdm3wHQ2ZG5wPZO5wA21ly8uYx6htZdQAgY7Zcon/Z4U60W2hPdf4RZfTXFGV EZatCi46/sjuQ== Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2026 19:38:29 -0700 From: Jakub Kicinski To: David Woodhouse Cc: davem@davemloft.net, openwrt-devel , Guy Ellis , netdev@vger.kernel.org, edumazet@google.com, pabeni@redhat.com, andrew+netdev@lunn.ch, horms@kernel.org, corbet@lwn.net, skhan@linuxfoundation.org, linux@armlinux.org.uk, tsbogend@alpha.franken.de, maddy@linux.ibm.com, mpe@ellerman.id.au, npiggin@gmail.com, chleroy@kernel.org, 3chas3@gmail.com, razor@blackwall.org, idosch@nvidia.com, jani.nikula@intel.com, mchehab+huawei@kernel.org, tytso@mit.edu, herbert@gondor.apana.org.au, geert@linux-m68k.org, ebiggers@kernel.org, johannes.berg@intel.com, jonathan.cameron@huawei.com, kees@kernel.org, kuniyu@google.com, fourier.thomas@gmail.com, andriy.shevchenko@intel.com, rdunlap@infradead.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, bridge@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: [PATCH net-deletions v2] net: remove unused ATM protocols and legacy ATM device drivers Message-ID: <20260422193829.0b8539a3@kernel.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20260422041846.2035118-1-kuba@kernel.org> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 22 Apr 2026 14:05:31 +0100 David Woodhouse wrote: > On Tue, 2026-04-21 at 21:18 -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote: > > =C2=A0=C2=A0 I'm still deleting the solos driver, chances are nobody us= es it. > > =C2=A0=C2=A0 Easy enough to revert back in since core is still around. > > =C2=A0=C2=A0 The guiding principle is to keep USB modems and delete > > =C2=A0=C2=A0 the rest as USB ADSL2+ CPEs were most popular historically= . =20 >=20 > Still not entirely convinced; I worked on both USB ATM modems and on > Solos, and the Solos is both the most modern and the only one I still > actually have. And the only one we have native support for that could > ever do full 24Mb/s ADSL2+, I believe. >=20 > If we drop it, OpenWrt will need to drop support for these, which I > think were quite popular at the time; there were a few UK resellers: > https://openwrt.org/toh/traverse/geos1_1 >=20 > I still don't actually care *enough* to try to find an ADSL line I > could plug one into for testing though... :) I'm inversely unconvinced. The argument has the ring of "I still have this HW lying around somewhere", which is usually what prevents us from shedding all this dead weight code. I don't want to argue, so I'll keep it. But if one "fix" arrives for this driver - it's going :(