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From: "Björn Persson" <Bjorn@xn--rombobjrn-67a.se>
To: Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@kernel.org>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-leds@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] docs: leds: uleds: Make the documentation match the code.
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:47:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260424194714.71de0ef6@tag.xn--rombobjrn-67a.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260423152655.GF170138@google.com>

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Lee Jones wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Apr 2026, Björn Persson wrote:
> 
> > From: Björn Persson <Bjorn@Rombobjörn.se>
> > 
> > · max_brightness must be set. Leaving it uninitialized or just omitting it
> >   won't work.  
> 
> What are these points?  How do you even type one of those?

The bullet point is the character U+00B7 middle dot. I type it with
AltGr-period on a Swedish keyboard in Fedora. I don't know what keymap
your distro uses for your keyboard. I hear some keyboards lack an AltGr
key.

> Anyway, proper sentences / paragraphs is better.

You mean you dislike bulleted lists?

Or if you mean that the first sentence doesn't begin with a capital M,
that's because identifiers are case-sensitive in C. There is no
Max_brightness, and if it were defined, it would be different from
max_brightness.

Otherwise I don't understand what you mean with "proper sentences", as
I don't see any grammatical errors.

> > -A new LED class device will be created with the name given. The name can be
> > -any valid sysfs device node name, but consider using the LED class naming
> > -convention of "devicename:color:function".
> > +A new LED class device will be created with the given name and maximum  
> 
> Did you mean to revers "name given"?  A "given name" usually means
> something else.

I felt that "the name and maximum brightness given" would be
grammatically awkward.

To prevent misinterpretation, how about replacing "given" with a
synonym? Perhaps "the specified name and maximum brightness"? Another
option is "the given maximum brightness and name", but it feels a
little odd to mention the brightness before the name.

> > +Although max_brightness is a signed int, only positive values are valid:
> > +1 to INT_MAX.  
> 
> What about 0?

That will get you an EINVAL from uleds.c – presumably because a
brightness interval from 0 to 0 would be pointless. That LED would never
be lit.

> > +The current brightness is found by reading a whole int from the character  
> 
> Try not to shorten names in documentation "integer".

The type is named "int" in C. There are many integer types, but it would
be wrong to try to read a uint16_t or a size_t or any other integer
type. The document needs to use the actual type name to make it clear to
the reader that they must read sizeof(int) bytes.

> Why do we need to specify "whole"?

Because you can't read it piecemeal. Usually when you read from a disk
file, a pipe, a TCP socket or some other bytestream, the system call
will let you read one byte at a time if you want. A reader might assume
that /dev/uleds works the same way.

From a datagram socket you can read the beginning of a datagram and
discard the part that doesn't fit in your buffer. To a reader with a
little-endian system and max_brightness ≤ 255, it might seem logical
that they'd be able to read the first byte and discard the bits that
will always be zero.

I thought "whole" would communicate to the reader that they must read
sizeof(int) bytes in a single system call.

It seems this wording wasn't enough to get the point across that it's
necessary to read an int, a whole int, and nothing but an int. Do you
think the document needs to expound that point more?

Björn Persson

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-24 17:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-02 20:27 [PATCH] docs: leds: uleds: Make the documentation match the code Björn Persson
2026-04-23 15:26 ` Lee Jones
2026-04-24 17:47   ` Björn Persson [this message]
2026-05-07 13:11     ` Lee Jones
2026-05-10 19:43       ` Björn Persson

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