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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org>,
	Donald Hunter <donald.hunter@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
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	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@fomichev.me>,
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	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v5 8/8] selftests: net: add test for XDP_PASS skb checksum invalidation
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2026 08:27:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260721082728.74142e6c@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <al53WS9FMTnu7tBI@devvm7509.cco0.facebook.com>

On Mon, 20 Jul 2026 12:32:55 -0700 Stanislav Fomichev wrote:
> > > (although for gve I might be wrong, there is also gve_rx_skb_csum that only
> > > does UNNECESSARY).
> > > 
> > > I'd wait for Jakub to chime in, but it feels like we should just document
> > > what we currently do as a recommended approach: for the drivers
> > > that support COMPLETE, do not report it when the bpf program is attached.
> > > Both NONE and UNNECESSARY are ok.  
> > 
> > I am not completely sure the UNNECESSARY case is different from the COMPLETE
> > one. What are we supposed to do if the driver reports UNNECESSARY and the ebpf
> > program modifies some fields covered by the rx-checksum?  
> 
> For unnecessary, I think the safe expectation is that the bpf program
> will update the value of the checksum in the packet if it touches the data?

Documenting as expected behavior which no driver currently follows 
is a bit silly. I thought the ask was to sketch out the plan of
explicitly updating/invalidating the checksum even if we don't
implement it today?

> > > Also, did you run this test on real HW? NIPA now has HW tests, maybe it
> > > makes sense to route this series via net-next to get the real coverage?  
> > 
> > What about splitting this series and have two different series:
> > - bpf-next: add xdp rx kfunc and related selftest
> > - net-next: add kselftest for the driver expected behaviour.
> > 
> > What do you think?  
> 
> I'd post everything to net-next to get the HW coverage. Once you get all
> the acks we can ask the maintainers' guidance.

+1, and please add proper tests for the real drivers exercising the
kfunc with traffic (would be good to try to send a non-TCP/UDP frame
to try to cajole the driver into using COMPLETE).

      parent reply	other threads:[~2026-07-21 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-15 21:39 [PATCH bpf-next v5 0/8] Add the the capability to load HW RX checksum in eBPF programs Lorenzo Bianconi
2026-07-15 21:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 1/8] netlink: specs: add XDP RX checksum capability to XDP metadata specs Lorenzo Bianconi
2026-07-15 22:24   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-07-21 15:21   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-07-15 21:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 2/8] net: veth: add xmo_rx_checksum callback to veth driver Lorenzo Bianconi
2026-07-15 21:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 3/8] net: ice: add xmo_rx_checksum callback Lorenzo Bianconi
2026-07-15 21:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 4/8] selftests/bpf: add selftest support for bpf_xdp_metadata_rx_checksum Lorenzo Bianconi
2026-07-15 21:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 5/8] selftests/bpf: add bpf_xdp_metadata_rx_checksum support to xdp_hw_metadat prog Lorenzo Bianconi
2026-07-15 21:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 6/8] net: add bpf_skb_rx_checksum kfunc to read skb checksum metadata Lorenzo Bianconi
2026-07-15 21:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 7/8] selftests/bpf: Add test for bpf_skb_rx_checksum kfunc Lorenzo Bianconi
2026-07-15 21:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 8/8] selftests: net: add test for XDP_PASS skb checksum invalidation Lorenzo Bianconi
2026-07-16 12:30   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-07-16 16:06     ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2026-07-20 19:32       ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-07-20 22:08         ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2026-07-21 15:27         ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]

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