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From: Alexander Popov <alex.popov@linux.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] Introduce the pkill_on_warn boot parameter
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 20:30:09 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <23abb989-c20c-0dc0-019c-272beca8cee6@linux.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zgrnqmlc.fsf@disp2133>

On 05.10.2021 22:48, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Especially as calling do_group_exit(SIGKILL) from a random location is
> not a clean way to kill a process.  Strictly speaking it is not even
> killing the process.
> 
> Partly this is just me seeing the introduction of a
> do_group_exit(SIGKILL) call and not likely the maintenance that will be
> needed.  I am still sorting out the problems with other randomly placed
> calls to do_group_exit(SIGKILL) and interactions with ptrace and
> PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT in particular.
> 
> Which is a long winded way of saying if I can predictably trigger a
> warning that calls do_group_exit(SIGKILL), on some architectures I can
> use ptrace and  can convert that warning into a way to manipulate the
> kernel stack to have the contents of my choice.
> 
> If anyone goes forward with this please use the existing oops
> infrastructure so the ptrace interactions and anything else that comes
> up only needs to be fixed once.

Hello Eric, hello everyone.

I learned the oops infrastructure and see that it's arch-specific.
The architectures have separate implementations of the die() function with 
different prototypes. I don't see how to use the oops infrastructure for killing 
all threads in a process that hits a kernel warning.

What do you think about doing the same as the oom_killer (and some other 
subsystems)? It kills all threads in a process this way:
   do_send_sig_info(SIGKILL, SEND_SIG_PRIV, current, PIDTYPE_TGID).

The oom_killer also shows a nice way to avoid killing init and kthreads:
	static bool oom_unkillable_task(struct task_struct *p)
	{
		if (is_global_init(p))
			return true;
		if (p->flags & PF_KTHREAD)
			return true;
		return false;
	}
I want to do something similar.

I would appreciate your comments.
Best regards,
Alexander

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-10-22 17:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-29 18:58 [PATCH] Introduce the pkill_on_warn boot parameter Alexander Popov
2021-09-29 19:01 ` Alexander Popov
2021-09-29 19:49   ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-09-30  9:15     ` Petr Mladek
2021-09-30 15:05       ` Alexander Popov
2021-10-01 12:23         ` Petr Mladek
2021-09-30 16:59       ` Steven Rostedt
2021-10-01 12:09         ` Petr Mladek
2021-09-30 18:28       ` Kees Cook
2021-10-01 19:59       ` Linus Torvalds
2021-10-02 11:41         ` Alexander Popov
2021-10-02 12:13           ` Steven Rostedt
2021-10-02 16:33             ` Alexander Popov
2021-10-02 16:52           ` Linus Torvalds
2021-10-02 21:05             ` Alexander Popov
2021-10-05 19:48               ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-10-06 14:56                 ` Alexander Popov
2021-10-22 17:30                 ` Alexander Popov [this message]
2022-07-27 16:17         ` Alexey Khoroshilov
2022-07-27 16:30           ` Jann Horn
2022-07-27 16:43             ` Alexey Khoroshilov
2022-07-27 16:42           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-27 17:47             ` Alexey Khoroshilov
2021-09-29 23:31   ` Andrew Morton
2021-09-30 18:27     ` Alexander Popov
2021-09-30 18:36       ` Kees Cook
2021-09-29 19:03 ` Dave Hansen
2021-09-29 19:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29 20:06   ` Kees Cook
2021-09-30 13:55     ` Alexander Popov
2021-09-30 18:20       ` Kees Cook
2021-10-02 18:04 ` Al Viro
2021-10-02 18:31   ` Steven Rostedt

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