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From: Sohil Mehta <sohil.mehta@intel.com>
To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCHv6 01/16] x86/cpu: Enumerate the LASS feature bits
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 11:14:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <248e272c-79ec-4c11-a3a8-dff1de2147c0@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250620135325.3300848-2-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>

On 6/20/2025 6:53 AM, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
>  
> +/*
> + * The CLAC/STAC instructions toggle enforcement of X86_FEATURE_SMAP.
> + *
> + * X86_FEATURE_LASS requires flipping the AC flag when accessing the lower half
> + * of the virtual address space, regardless of the _PAGE_BIT_USER bit in the
> + * page tables. lass_clac/stac() should be used for these cases.
> + *

Is this supposed to be "regardless" or only when the _PAGE_BIT_USER bit
it set? The way the sentence is worded it would seem that the kernel
could always use lass_clac()/stac() since the value in _PAGE_BIT_USER
doesn't matter.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but here is my understanding:

X86_FEATURE_SMAP and X86_FEATURE_LASS both complain when the kernel
tries to access the lower half of the virtual addresses.

SMAP flags an issue if _PAGE_BIT_USER is not set. LASS would #GP in both
cases with or without the _PAGE_BIT_USER being set.

However, in terms of usage, we want to use LASS specific stac()/clac()
only when _PAGE_BIT_USER is set. Since this won't be flagged by SMAP.

@Dave Hansen, you had suggested separating out the SMAP/LASS AC toggle
functions. But, the difference in usage between both of them seems very
subtle. Could this be easily misused?

For example, there is no failure that would happen if someone
incorrectly uses the SMAP specific clac()/stac() calls instead of the
LASS ones.

> + * Note: a barrier is implicit in alternative().
> + */
> +
>  static __always_inline void clac(void)
>  {
> -	/* Note: a barrier is implicit in alternative() */
>  	alternative("", "clac", X86_FEATURE_SMAP);
>  }
>  
>  static __always_inline void stac(void)
>  {
> -	/* Note: a barrier is implicit in alternative() */
>  	alternative("", "stac", X86_FEATURE_SMAP);
>  }
>  
> +static __always_inline void lass_clac(void)
> +{
> +	alternative("", "clac", X86_FEATURE_LASS);
> +}
> +
> +static __always_inline void lass_stac(void)
> +{
> +	alternative("", "stac", X86_FEATURE_LASS);
> +}
> +

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-06-20 18:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-20 13:53 [PATCHv6 00/16] x86: Enable Linear Address Space Separation support Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 01/16] x86/cpu: Enumerate the LASS feature bits Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 15:25   ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 15:36   ` Xin Li
2025-06-20 17:31     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 23:46       ` Xin Li
2025-06-21  0:45         ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-21  0:50           ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-23 17:40             ` Xin Li
2025-06-24  2:04               ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-24  4:57                 ` Xin Li
2025-06-24  5:11                   ` Xin Li
2025-06-20 16:02   ` Randy Dunlap
2025-06-20 16:12     ` Xin Li
2025-06-20 16:16       ` Randy Dunlap
2025-06-20 16:35   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-20 17:33     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 18:29       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-23  8:17         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-23 10:21           ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-23 13:42             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-26 15:18               ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-26 16:07                 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-26 17:21                   ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-27 10:25                     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-27 10:43                       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-27 13:57                       ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 18:14   ` Sohil Mehta [this message]
2025-06-20 18:24     ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 23:10       ` Sohil Mehta
2025-06-23 16:25       ` Luck, Tony
2025-06-23 16:42         ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-23 23:13           ` Luck, Tony
2025-06-23 23:36             ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-24  0:10               ` Luck, Tony
2025-06-24  2:03                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-25 18:51     ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 02/16] x86/asm: Introduce inline memcpy and memset Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 03/16] x86/alternatives: Disable LASS when patching kernel alternatives Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 15:33   ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 17:18     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 04/16] x86/efi: Move runtime service initialization to arch/x86 Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 15:35   ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 17:42     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 05/16] x86/cpu: Defer CR pinning setup until after EFI initialization Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 15:44   ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 06/16] efi: Disable LASS around set_virtual_address_map() EFI call Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 15:55   ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 17:50     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 07/16] x86/vsyscall: Reorganize the #PF emulation code Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 18:43   ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 23:08     ` Andrew Cooper
2025-06-20 23:18       ` Sohil Mehta
2025-06-20 23:29         ` Andrew Cooper
2025-06-20 23:21       ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-21  3:35         ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-23 12:41         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-23 12:46           ` Andrew Cooper
2025-06-23 15:32           ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-23 15:45             ` Andrew Cooper
2025-06-24 11:37             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-24 14:11               ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-24 14:59                 ` [PATCH] x86/vsyscall: Do not require X86_PF_INSTR to emulate vsyscall Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 08/16] x86/traps: Consolidate user fixups in exc_general_protection() Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 14:47   ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 09/16] x86/vsyscall: Add vsyscall emulation for #GP Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 10/16] x86/vsyscall: Disable LASS if vsyscall mode is set to EMULATE Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 11/16] x86/cpu: Set LASS CR4 bit as pinning sensitive Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 12/16] x86/traps: Communicate a LASS violation in #GP message Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 13/16] x86/traps: Handle LASS thrown #SS Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 15:20   ` Xin Li
2025-06-20 17:53     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 14/16] x86/cpu: Make LAM depend on LASS Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 15/16] x86/cpu: Enable LASS during CPU initialization Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 13:53 ` [PATCHv6 16/16] x86: Re-enable Linear Address Masking Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 15:38 ` [PATCHv6 00/16] x86: Enable Linear Address Space Separation support Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 22:04   ` Andrew Cooper
2025-06-20 22:29     ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-20 22:43     ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-20 22:46     ` Dave Hansen

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