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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Sohil Mehta <sohil.mehta@intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
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	linux-efi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 9/9] x86/cpu: Enable LASS by default during CPU initialization
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2025 00:01:28 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <255724be-a6d8-4aa6-94f9-1e6ffba3a3cc@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d20a5e9d-dc0b-4bd2-89bb-95dbded8a581@intel.com>

On 2025-10-30 09:27, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 10/30/25 01:40, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>> Legacy vsyscalls have been obsolete for how long now?
> 
> I asked Sohil to start throwing out all the non-essential bits from this
> series. My thought was that we could get mainline so that LASS itself
> could be enabled, even if it was in a somewhat weird config that a
> distro would probably never do.
> 
> After that is merged, we can circle back and decide what to do with the
> remaining bits like CR pinning and vsyscall emulation. I don't think any
> of those bits will change the basic desire to have LASS support in the
> kernel.
> 
> Does that sound like a sane approach to everyone?

XONLY vsyscall emulation should be trivial, though (just look for the magic
RIP values, just like the page fault code does now, too.) The FULL emulation
mode is completely irrelevant these days, so I don't think it matters at all.

EFI handling is similarly straightforward: just disable CR4.LASS right before
calling EFI, and enable it on return. As long as we are *already* in the
efi_mm context, it is perfectly safe to disable CR4.LASS, because there *is no
user memory mapped at that point*.

These two things should only be a few lines of code each, and I don't see any
reason to further elaborate them at this time (to handle FULL emulation, or to
take a LASS trap inside EFI to write a shame-the-vendor message; if we wanted
to do that, it would be better to make that independent of LASS and empty out
efi_mm entirely.

Am I missing something?

	-hpa



  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-07  8:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-29 21:03 [PATCH v11 0/9] x86: Enable Linear Address Space Separation support Sohil Mehta
2025-10-29 21:03 ` [PATCH v11 1/9] x86/cpufeatures: Enumerate the LASS feature bits Sohil Mehta
2025-10-31 17:03   ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-29 21:03 ` [PATCH v11 2/9] x86/cpu: Add an LASS dependency on SMAP Sohil Mehta
2025-10-31 17:04   ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-29 21:03 ` [PATCH v11 3/9] x86/asm: Introduce inline memcpy and memset Sohil Mehta
2025-10-31 17:06   ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-29 21:03 ` [PATCH v11 4/9] x86/alternatives: Disable LASS when patching kernel code Sohil Mehta
2025-10-31 17:10   ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-10 18:15   ` Sohil Mehta
2025-11-10 19:09     ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-10 19:24     ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-12 13:56     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2025-11-12 14:51       ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-12 14:57         ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-12 15:18           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2025-11-12 15:23             ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-12 15:28               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2025-11-12 15:47                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-12 16:18                 ` Sohil Mehta
2025-11-12 16:26                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-12 16:29                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-29 21:03 ` [PATCH v11 5/9] x86/efi: Disable LASS while mapping the EFI runtime services Sohil Mehta
2025-10-31 17:11   ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-31 17:38     ` Andy Lutomirski
2025-10-31 17:41       ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-31 18:03         ` Sohil Mehta
2025-10-31 18:12           ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-07  9:04             ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-07  9:22               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2025-11-07  9:27                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-07  9:35                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2025-11-07  9:40                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-07 10:09                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2025-11-07 10:27                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-08  0:48                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2025-11-08 16:18                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-08 22:50                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-07 10:10                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-07 10:17                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2025-10-31 19:04       ` Sohil Mehta
2025-11-07  7:36         ` Sohil Mehta
2025-10-31 18:32     ` Sohil Mehta
2025-10-29 21:03 ` [PATCH v11 6/9] x86/kexec: Disable LASS during relocate kernel Sohil Mehta
2025-10-31 17:14   ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-29 21:03 ` [PATCH v11 7/9] x86/traps: Communicate a LASS violation in #GP message Sohil Mehta
2025-10-31 17:16   ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-31 19:59     ` Sohil Mehta
2025-10-31 20:03       ` Andy Lutomirski
2025-10-31 20:56       ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-29 21:03 ` [PATCH v11 8/9] selftests/x86: Update the negative vsyscall tests to expect a #GP Sohil Mehta
2025-10-31 17:20   ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-29 21:03 ` [PATCH v11 9/9] x86/cpu: Enable LASS by default during CPU initialization Sohil Mehta
2025-10-30  8:40   ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-30 15:45     ` Andy Lutomirski
2025-10-30 16:44       ` Sohil Mehta
2025-10-30 16:53         ` Andy Lutomirski
2025-10-30 17:24           ` Sohil Mehta
2025-10-30 17:31             ` Andy Lutomirski
2025-10-30 21:13         ` David Laight
2025-10-31  6:41           ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-31 16:55           ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-30 16:27     ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-07  8:01       ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2025-11-07 20:08         ` Sohil Mehta
2025-10-31 17:21   ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-31 20:04     ` Sohil Mehta

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