From: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>
To: Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
simona@ffwll.ch, airlied@gmail.com, alexander.deucher@amd.com,
christian.koenig@amd.com, lyude@redhat.com, dakr@kernel.org,
deller@gmx.de, mripard@kernel.org, jason.wessel@windriver.com,
danielt@kernel.org, dianders@chromium.org
Cc: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] drm: Remove remaining support for kdb
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2025 08:44:07 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <38dcc504-5fa7-49ff-a74c-9a877fd267d5@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <82ed9798-9237-4404-9b32-9430bfb82b26@linux.intel.com>
Hi
Am 25.11.25 um 17:25 schrieb Maarten Lankhorst:
> Hey,
>
> I'm glad to see the old kdb handler gone.
>
> Could we perhaps extend the drm panic handler somehow for this to work?
> Restore could potentially be simply duplicating and committing the current state.
Yeah, I briefly outlined this in the cover letter. If we wanted to
support kdb, we could get the scanout buffer and use the buffer's simple
display update for showing the debugger. I think this still requires
quite some work, but would avoid all the issues with the current approach.
Best regards
Thomas
>
> Kind regards,
> ~Maarten Lankhorst
>
> Den 2025-11-25 kl. 13:52, skrev Thomas Zimmermann:
>> Remove the rest of the kbd support from DRM. Driver support has been
>> broken for years without anyone complaining.
>>
>> Kdb cannot use regular DRM mode setting, so DRM drivers have to
>> implement an additional hook to make it work (in theory). As outlined
>> by Sima in commit 9c79e0b1d096 ("drm/fb-helper: Give up on kgdb for
>> atomic drivers") from 2017, kdb is not compatible with DRM atomic mode
>> setting. Non-atomic mode setting meanwhile has become rare.
>>
>> Only 3 DRM drivers implement the hooks for kdb support. Amdgpu and
>> nouveau use non-atomic mode setting on older devices. But both drivers
>> have switched to generic fbdev emulation, which isn't compatible with
>> kdb. Radeon still runs kdb, but it doesn't work in practice. See the
>> commits in this series for details
>>
>> Therefore remove the remaining support for kdb from the DRM drivers
>> and from DRM fbdev emulation. Also remove the hooks from fbdev, as
>> there are no fbdev drivers with kdb support.
>>
>> If we ever want to address kdb support within DRM drivers, a place to
>> start would be the scanout buffers used by DRM's panic screen. These
>> use the current display mode. They can be written and flushed without
>> mode setting involved.
>>
>> Note: kdb over serial lines is not affected by this series and continues
>> to work as before.
>>
>> Thomas Zimmermann (5):
>> drm/amdgpu: Do not implement mode_set_base_atomic callback
>> drm/nouveau: Do not implement mode_set_base_atomic callback
>> drm/radeon: Do not implement mode_set_base_atomic callback
>> drm/fbdev-helper: Remove drm_fb_helper_debug_enter/_leave()
>> fbcon: Remove fb_debug_enter/_leave from struct fb_ops
>>
>> Documentation/process/debugging/kgdb.rst | 28 -----
>> drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/dce_v10_0.c | 35 ++-----
>> drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/dce_v6_0.c | 35 ++-----
>> drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/dce_v8_0.c | 35 ++-----
>> drivers/gpu/drm/drm_fb_helper.c | 108 --------------------
>> drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/dispnv04/crtc.c | 24 +----
>> drivers/gpu/drm/radeon/atombios_crtc.c | 74 ++++----------
>> drivers/gpu/drm/radeon/radeon_legacy_crtc.c | 23 ++---
>> drivers/gpu/drm/radeon/radeon_mode.h | 10 +-
>> drivers/video/fbdev/core/fbcon.c | 24 -----
>> drivers/video/fbdev/core/fbcon.h | 1 -
>> include/drm/drm_fb_helper.h | 21 ----
>> include/drm/drm_modeset_helper_vtables.h | 23 -----
>> include/linux/fb.h | 4 -
>> 14 files changed, 63 insertions(+), 382 deletions(-)
>>
>>
>> base-commit: 0a21e96e0b6840d2a4e0b45a957679eeddeb4362
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Thomas Zimmermann
Graphics Driver Developer
SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH
Frankenstr. 146, 90461 Nürnberg, Germany, www.suse.com
GF: Jochen Jaser, Andrew McDonald, Werner Knoblich, (HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-26 7:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-25 12:52 [PATCH 0/5] drm: Remove remaining support for kdb Thomas Zimmermann
2025-11-25 12:52 ` [PATCH 1/5] drm/amdgpu: Do not implement mode_set_base_atomic callback Thomas Zimmermann
2025-11-25 12:52 ` [PATCH 2/5] drm/nouveau: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-11-26 23:07 ` Lyude Paul
2025-11-25 12:52 ` [PATCH 3/5] drm/radeon: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-11-25 12:52 ` [PATCH 4/5] drm/fbdev-helper: Remove drm_fb_helper_debug_enter/_leave() Thomas Zimmermann
2025-11-25 12:52 ` [PATCH 5/5] fbcon: Remove fb_debug_enter/_leave from struct fb_ops Thomas Zimmermann
2025-11-25 13:10 ` [PATCH 0/5] drm: Remove remaining support for kdb Thomas Zimmermann
2025-11-25 13:16 ` Christian König
2025-11-25 14:24 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-11-25 15:26 ` Doug Anderson
2025-11-25 16:22 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-11-26 12:19 ` Daniel Thompson
2025-11-26 13:32 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-11-26 14:20 ` Daniel Thompson
2025-11-25 16:25 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2025-11-26 7:44 ` Thomas Zimmermann [this message]
2025-12-01 16:41 ` Thomas Zimmermann
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