From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-alma10-1.taild15c8.ts.net [100.103.45.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E14640B117; Tue, 21 Jul 2026 15:43:06 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=100.103.45.18 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1784648587; cv=none; b=on7ShpgS1WCZZGiA2IJF7F927KrWWtWUiLT3iK0i3cUZZDQKP4WgS42LLjt2Lh51rd3vsssBQT3juyjp6NWtlgf41KOGbJ9wiUaQL4NXMy52wIYtUJQ84suzN7B1/SK0HK314igKNFsVhbR1+DXX6wvumTTCbWCCddrudWVAf+s= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1784648587; c=relaxed/simple; bh=TLiA58NKlXqcehB8I6NPh0DLuo8w7rymsSX/br9w1Ao=; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject:To:Cc:References:From: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=bQgIZu9wEXZ2VsundNpCyEsB+er5BKv/ZSKe27WD9R5cLrZcDu+mdbYsHPf5eWB7cpBk/N3bmS5vrut+mnLlinw0GSbRfc7LjYAI6PbStFiOoIcOIrsrsjNz7JzIXQ3mNSnc9dtskvKUJCU3srL2jwlNdrQKrVb8fQtJAaYh+tc= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=i46hQ7WB; arc=none smtp.client-ip=100.103.45.18 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="i46hQ7WB" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C47751F000E9; Tue, 21 Jul 2026 15:42:55 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kernel.org; s=k20260515; t=1784648586; bh=K8km+ZQgkLUVNh5jQNamAtWyAYxH8WzuI6GZYyhCw5A=; h=Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=i46hQ7WBWTSjsJoo0+aveeWDcCrbR28cpcdsOhYe47u8VnVADMzUCzgKDgO1zrrFL RvX8M8IyZbwW6+2/ZFYKqtdyCdD7Bu7yegasMnOCMW6PitAN9yJ5HbJKOCXUKS/Jo8 L6csKx3I2nudveiiZxOEhTUX4Y72B+kVDuKRxQiwFJVlPNIgxTlo2pnnik+08H/vAB wOZJ3QkGLxPrbYexz4Z2lPFM52xsYgt5WeZbuKkkIur+qqoEMW+gxo5TgYo20cxjeF 8dDfaslPMlAeyIafDK2s4i66yRQGvgmYRh1ZHlvhjlF4y8buBZXjFVNi7m2f+SrPSV Ve0R4XiL7aGhw== Message-ID: <3ed2043b-88e7-4a86-9efb-fe788191e8e8@kernel.org> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2026 17:42:53 +0200 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 2/8] mm/hmm: add hmm_range_fault_unlocked_timeout() for mmap lock-drop support To: Stanislav Kinsburskii , airlied@gmail.com, akhilesh@ee.iitb.ac.in, akpm@linux-foundation.org, corbet@lwn.net, dakr@kernel.org, decui@microsoft.com, haiyangz@microsoft.com, jgg@ziepe.ca, kees@kernel.org, kys@microsoft.com, leon@kernel.org, liam@infradead.org, lizhi.hou@amd.com, ljs@kernel.org, longli@microsoft.com, lyude@redhat.com, maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com, mamin506@gmail.com, mhocko@suse.com, mripard@kernel.org, nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org, ogabbay@kernel.org, oleg@redhat.com, rppt@kernel.org, shuah@kernel.org, simona@ffwll.ch, skhan@linuxfoundation.org, surenb@google.com, tzimmermann@suse.de, vbabka@kernel.org, wei.liu@kernel.org Cc: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org References: <178413903133.1155966.3904063656020521607.stgit@skinsburskii> <178413936536.1155966.8918127042760531802.stgit@skinsburskii> From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" Content-Language: en-US Autocrypt: addr=david@kernel.org; keydata= xsFNBFXLn5EBEAC+zYvAFJxCBY9Tr1xZgcESmxVNI/0ffzE/ZQOiHJl6mGkmA1R7/uUpiCjJ dBrn+lhhOYjjNefFQou6478faXE6o2AhmebqT4KiQoUQFV4R7y1KMEKoSyy8hQaK1umALTdL QZLQMzNE74ap+GDK0wnacPQFpcG1AE9RMq3aeErY5tujekBS32jfC/7AnH7I0v1v1TbbK3Gp XNeiN4QroO+5qaSr0ID2sz5jtBLRb15RMre27E1ImpaIv2Jw8NJgW0k/D1RyKCwaTsgRdwuK Kx/Y91XuSBdz0uOyU/S8kM1+ag0wvsGlpBVxRR/xw/E8M7TEwuCZQArqqTCmkG6HGcXFT0V9 PXFNNgV5jXMQRwU0O/ztJIQqsE5LsUomE//bLwzj9IVsaQpKDqW6TAPjcdBDPLHvriq7kGjt WhVhdl0qEYB8lkBEU7V2Yb+SYhmhpDrti9Fq1EsmhiHSkxJcGREoMK/63r9WLZYI3+4W2rAc UucZa4OT27U5ZISjNg3Ev0rxU5UH2/pT4wJCfxwocmqaRr6UYmrtZmND89X0KigoFD/XSeVv jwBRNjPAubK9/k5NoRrYqztM9W6sJqrH8+UWZ1Idd/DdmogJh0gNC0+N42Za9yBRURfIdKSb B3JfpUqcWwE7vUaYrHG1nw54pLUoPG6sAA7Mehl3nd4pZUALHwARAQABzS5EYXZpZCBIaWxk ZW5icmFuZCAoQ3VycmVudCkgPGRhdmlkQGtlcm5lbC5vcmc+wsGQBBMBCAA6AhsDBQkmWAik AgsJBBUKCQgCFgICHgUCF4AWIQQb2cqtc1xMOkYN/MpN3hD3AP+DWgUCaYJt/AIZAQAKCRBN 3hD3AP+DWriiD/9BLGEKG+N8L2AXhikJg6YmXom9ytRwPqDgpHpVg2xdhopoWdMRXjzOrIKD g4LSnFaKneQD0hZhoArEeamG5tyo32xoRsPwkbpIzL0OKSZ8G6mVbFGpjmyDLQCAxteXCLXz ZI0VbsuJKelYnKcXWOIndOrNRvE5eoOfTt2XfBnAapxMYY2IsV+qaUXlO63GgfIOg8RBaj7x 3NxkI3rV0SHhI4GU9K6jCvGghxeS1QX6L/XI9mfAYaIwGy5B68kF26piAVYv/QZDEVIpo3t7 /fjSpxKT8plJH6rhhR0epy8dWRHk3qT5tk2P85twasdloWtkMZ7FsCJRKWscm1BLpsDn6EQ4 jeMHECiY9kGKKi8dQpv3FRyo2QApZ49NNDbwcR0ZndK0XFo15iH708H5Qja/8TuXCwnPWAcJ DQoNIDFyaxe26Rx3ZwUkRALa3iPcVjE0//TrQ4KnFf+lMBSrS33xDDBfevW9+Dk6IISmDH1R HFq2jpkN+FX/PE8eVhV68B2DsAPZ5rUwyCKUXPTJ/irrCCmAAb5Jpv11S7hUSpqtM/6oVESC 3z/7CzrVtRODzLtNgV4r5EI+wAv/3PgJLlMwgJM90Fb3CB2IgbxhjvmB1WNdvXACVydx55V7 LPPKodSTF29rlnQAf9HLgCphuuSrrPn5VQDaYZl4N/7zc2wcWM7BTQRVy5+RARAA59fefSDR 9nMGCb9LbMX+TFAoIQo/wgP5XPyzLYakO+94GrgfZjfhdaxPXMsl2+o8jhp/hlIzG56taNdt VZtPp3ih1AgbR8rHgXw1xwOpuAd5lE1qNd54ndHuADO9a9A0vPimIes78Hi1/yy+ZEEvRkHk /kDa6F3AtTc1m4rbbOk2fiKzzsE9YXweFjQvl9p+AMw6qd/iC4lUk9g0+FQXNdRs+o4o6Qvy iOQJfGQ4UcBuOy1IrkJrd8qq5jet1fcM2j4QvsW8CLDWZS1L7kZ5gT5EycMKxUWb8LuRjxzZ 3QY1aQH2kkzn6acigU3HLtgFyV1gBNV44ehjgvJpRY2cC8VhanTx0dZ9mj1YKIky5N+C0f21 zvntBqcxV0+3p8MrxRRcgEtDZNav+xAoT3G0W4SahAaUTWXpsZoOecwtxi74CyneQNPTDjNg azHmvpdBVEfj7k3p4dmJp5i0U66Onmf6mMFpArvBRSMOKU9DlAzMi4IvhiNWjKVaIE2Se9BY FdKVAJaZq85P2y20ZBd08ILnKcj7XKZkLU5FkoA0udEBvQ0f9QLNyyy3DZMCQWcwRuj1m73D sq8DEFBdZ5eEkj1dCyx+t/ga6x2rHyc8Sl86oK1tvAkwBNsfKou3v+jP/l14a7DGBvrmlYjO 59o3t6inu6H7pt7OL6u6BQj7DoMAEQEAAcLBfAQYAQgAJgIbDBYhBBvZyq1zXEw6Rg38yk3e EPcA/4NaBQJonNqrBQkmWAihAAoJEE3eEPcA/4NaKtMQALAJ8PzprBEXbXcEXwDKQu+P/vts IfUb1UNMfMV76BicGa5NCZnJNQASDP/+bFg6O3gx5NbhHHPeaWz/VxlOmYHokHodOvtL0WCC 8A5PEP8tOk6029Z+J+xUcMrJClNVFpzVvOpb1lCbhjwAV465Hy+NUSbbUiRxdzNQtLtgZzOV Zw7jxUCs4UUZLQTCuBpFgb15bBxYZ/BL9MbzxPxvfUQIPbnzQMcqtpUs21CMK2PdfCh5c4gS sDci6D5/ZIBw94UQWmGpM/O1ilGXde2ZzzGYl64glmccD8e87OnEgKnH3FbnJnT4iJchtSvx yJNi1+t0+qDti4m88+/9IuPqCKb6Stl+s2dnLtJNrjXBGJtsQG/sRpqsJz5x1/2nPJSRMsx9 5YfqbdrJSOFXDzZ8/r82HgQEtUvlSXNaXCa95ez0UkOG7+bDm2b3s0XahBQeLVCH0mw3RAQg r7xDAYKIrAwfHHmMTnBQDPJwVqxJjVNr7yBic4yfzVWGCGNE4DnOW0vcIeoyhy9vnIa3w1uZ 3iyY2Nsd7JxfKu1PRhCGwXzRw5TlfEsoRI7V9A8isUCoqE2Dzh3FvYHVeX4Us+bRL/oqareJ CIFqgYMyvHj7Q06kTKmauOe4Nf0l0qEkIuIzfoLJ3qr5UyXc2hLtWyT9Ir+lYlX9efqh7mOY qIws/H2t In-Reply-To: <178413936536.1155966.8918127042760531802.stgit@skinsburskii> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/15/26 20:16, Stanislav Kinsburskii wrote: > hmm_range_fault() requires the caller to hold the mmap read lock for the > duration of the call. This is incompatible with mappings whose fault > handler may release the mmap lock, notably userfaultfd-managed regions, > where handle_mm_fault() can return VM_FAULT_RETRY or VM_FAULT_COMPLETED > after dropping the lock. Drivers that need to populate device page tables > for such mappings have no way to do so today. > > Add hmm_range_fault_unlocked_timeout() for callers that do not need to hold > mmap_lock across any work outside the HMM fault itself. The helper takes > mmap_read_lock_killable() internally, calls the common HMM fault > implementation, and releases the lock before returning if it is still held. > The timeout is specified in jiffies; passing 0 retries indefinitely, while > a non-zero timeout makes the helper return -EBUSY when the retry budget > expires. The timeout does not / cannot affect how long we might be stuck without the mmap lock in e.g., the userfaultfd handler. And also not how long it would take to actually grab the mmap lock. That's expected with the timeout, right? [...] Nothing else jumped at me. -- Cheers, David