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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Usama Arif <usamaarif642@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	corbet@lwn.net, rppt@kernel.org, surenb@google.com,
	mhocko@suse.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org, baohua@kernel.org,
	shakeel.butt@linux.dev, riel@surriel.com, ziy@nvidia.com,
	laoar.shao@gmail.com, dev.jain@arm.com,
	baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, npache@redhat.com,
	Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com, vbabka@suse.cz,
	jannh@google.com, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	sj@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@meta.com,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 7/7] selftests: prctl: introduce tests for disabling THPs except for madvise
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2025 11:49:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5dce29cc-3fad-416f-844d-d40c9a089a5f@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0b7543dd-4621-432c-9185-874963e8a6af@redhat.com>

+cc Mark who might have insights here

On Thu, Aug 14, 2025 at 11:32:55AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 13.08.25 20:52, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 13, 2025 at 06:24:11PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > > > > +
> > > > > +FIXTURE_SETUP(prctl_thp_disable_except_madvise)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > +	if (!thp_available())
> > > > > +		SKIP(return, "Transparent Hugepages not available\n");
> > > > > +
> > > > > +	self->pmdsize = read_pmd_pagesize();
> > > > > +	if (!self->pmdsize)
> > > > > +		SKIP(return, "Unable to read PMD size\n");
> > > > > +
> > > > > +	if (prctl(PR_SET_THP_DISABLE, 1, PR_THP_DISABLE_EXCEPT_ADVISED, NULL, NULL))
> > > > > +		SKIP(return, "Unable to set PR_THP_DISABLE_EXCEPT_ADVISED\n");
> > > >
> > > > This should be a test fail I think, as the only ways this could fail are
> > > > invalid flags, or failure to obtain an mmap write lock.
> > >
> > > Running a kernel that does not support it?
> >
> > I can't see anything in the kernel to #ifdef it out so I suppose you mean
> > running these tests on an older kernel?
>
> Yes.
>
> >
> > But this is an unsupported way of running self-tests, they are tied to the
> > kernel version in which they reside, and test that specific version.
> >
> > Unless I'm missing something here?
>
> I remember we allow for a bit of flexibility when it is simple to handle.
>
> Is that documented somewhere?

Not sure if it's documented, but it'd make testing extremely egregious if
you had to consider all of the possible kernels and interactions and etc.

I think it's 'if it happens to work then fine' but otherwise it is expected
that the tests match the kernel.

It's also very neat that with a revision you get a set of (hopefully)
working tests for that revision :)

>
> >
> > >
> > > We could check the errno to distinguish I guess.
> >
> > Which one? manpage says -EINVAL, but can also be due to incorrect invocation,
> > which would mean a typo could mean tests pass but your tests do nothing :)
>
> Right, no ENOSYS in that case to distinguish :(

Yup sadly

>
> --
> Cheers
>
> David / dhildenb
>

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-14 10:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-13 13:55 [PATCH v4 0/7] prctl: extend PR_SET_THP_DISABLE to only provide THPs when advised Usama Arif
2025-08-13 13:55 ` [PATCH v4 1/7] prctl: extend PR_SET_THP_DISABLE to optionally exclude VM_HUGEPAGE Usama Arif
2025-08-13 13:55 ` [PATCH v4 2/7] mm/huge_memory: convert "tva_flags" to "enum tva_type" Usama Arif
2025-08-14  3:07   ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-14 10:43     ` Usama Arif
2025-08-15  1:11       ` Andrew Morton
2025-08-15  9:29         ` Usama Arif
2025-08-14 14:59   ` Zi Yan
2025-08-13 13:55 ` [PATCH v4 3/7] mm/huge_memory: respect MADV_COLLAPSE with PR_THP_DISABLE_EXCEPT_ADVISED Usama Arif
2025-08-14 15:14   ` Zi Yan
2025-08-13 13:55 ` [PATCH v4 4/7] docs: transhuge: document process level THP controls Usama Arif
2025-08-13 14:30   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-14 15:47   ` Zi Yan
2025-08-13 13:55 ` [PATCH v4 5/7] selftest/mm: Extract sz2ord function into vm_util.h Usama Arif
2025-08-13 14:31   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-14 15:52   ` Zi Yan
2025-08-13 13:55 ` [PATCH v4 6/7] selftests: prctl: introduce tests for disabling THPs completely Usama Arif
2025-08-13 14:54   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-13 13:55 ` [PATCH v4 7/7] selftests: prctl: introduce tests for disabling THPs except for madvise Usama Arif
2025-08-13 15:13   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-13 16:24     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-13 18:52       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-14  9:32         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-14 10:49           ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2025-08-14 11:45             ` Mark Brown
2025-08-14 12:00               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-14 12:09                 ` Mark Brown
2025-08-14 12:59                   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-14 13:08                     ` Mark Brown
2025-08-14 15:02                       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-14 15:41                         ` Usama Arif
2025-08-14 10:36         ` Usama Arif
2025-08-14 10:53           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-14 11:51             ` Usama Arif

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