From: Christian Marangi <ansuelsmth@gmail.com>
To: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
John Crispin <john@phrozen.org>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-leds@vger.kernel.org, Tim Harvey <tharvey@gateworks.com>,
Alexander Stein <alexander.stein@ew.tq-group.com>,
Rasmus Villemoes <rasmus.villemoes@prevas.dk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 06/11] leds: trigger: netdev: add hardware control support
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 14:00:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <63a3038b.050a0220.d41c3.6f48@mx.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y6LX43poXJ4k/7mv@shell.armlinux.org.uk>
On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 09:54:43AM +0000, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 12:59:55AM +0100, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > > > One thought on this approach though - if one has a PHY that supports
> > > > "activity" but not independent "rx" and "tx" activity indications
> > > > and it doesn't support software control, how would one enable activity
> > > > mode? There isn't a way to simultaneously enable both at the same
> > > > time... However, I need to check whether there are any PHYs that fall
> > > > into this category.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Problem is that for such feature and to have at least something working
> > > we need to face compromise. We really can't support each switch feature
> > > and have a generic API for everything.
> >
> > I agree we need to make compromises. We cannot support every LED
> > feature of every PHY, they are simply too diverse. Hopefully we can
> > support some features of every PHY. In the worst case, a PHY simply
> > cannot be controlled via this method, which is the current state
> > today. So it is not worse off.
>
> ... and that compromise is that it's not going to be possible to enable
> activity mode on 88e151x with how the code stands and with the
> independent nature of "rx" and "tx" activity control currently in the
> netdev trigger... making this whole approach somewhat useless for
> Marvell PHYs.
Again we can consider adding an activity mode. It seems logical that
some switch may only support global traffic instead of independend tx or
rx... The feature are not mutually exclusive. One include the other 2.
We already a simple workaround for the link mode where on the current
driver, if the link mode is enabled just all rule for 10 100 and 1000
mbps are enabled simulating a global link event.
>
> We really need to see a working implementation for this code for more
> than just one PHY to prove that it is actually possible for it to
> support other PHYs. If not, it isn't actually solving the problem,
> and we're going to continue getting custom implementations to configure
> the LED settings.
>
Agree that we need other user for this to catch some problem in the
implementation of this generic API.
--
Ansuel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-12-21 13:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-12-14 23:54 [PATCH v7 00/11] Adds support for PHY LEDs with offload triggers Christian Marangi
2022-12-14 23:54 ` [PATCH v7 01/11] leds: add support for hardware driven LEDs Christian Marangi
2022-12-15 16:13 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-12-16 16:45 ` Christian Marangi
2022-12-16 16:51 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-12-20 23:35 ` Andrew Lunn
2023-01-03 5:40 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-12-14 23:54 ` [PATCH v7 02/11] leds: add function to configure hardware controlled LED Christian Marangi
2022-12-15 16:30 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-12-16 16:58 ` Christian Marangi
2022-12-14 23:54 ` [PATCH v7 03/11] leds: trigger: netdev: drop NETDEV_LED_MODE_LINKUP from mode Christian Marangi
2022-12-14 23:54 ` [PATCH v7 04/11] leds: trigger: netdev: rename and expose NETDEV trigger enum modes Christian Marangi
2022-12-20 23:48 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-12-14 23:54 ` [PATCH v7 05/11] leds: trigger: netdev: convert device attr to macro Christian Marangi
2022-12-14 23:54 ` [PATCH v7 06/11] leds: trigger: netdev: add hardware control support Christian Marangi
2022-12-15 15:27 ` Alexander Stein
2022-12-16 17:00 ` Christian Marangi
2023-01-02 12:44 ` Alexander Stein
2022-12-15 17:07 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-12-16 17:09 ` Christian Marangi
2022-12-20 23:59 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-12-21 9:54 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-12-21 13:00 ` Christian Marangi [this message]
2022-12-21 13:10 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-12-14 23:54 ` [PATCH v7 07/11] leds: trigger: netdev: use mutex instead of spinlocks Christian Marangi
2022-12-14 23:54 ` [PATCH v7 08/11] leds: trigger: netdev: add available mode sysfs attr Christian Marangi
2022-12-14 23:54 ` [PATCH v7 09/11] leds: trigger: netdev: add additional hardware only triggers Christian Marangi
2022-12-15 17:35 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-12-16 17:17 ` Christian Marangi
2022-12-21 0:12 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-12-21 12:56 ` Christian Marangi
2022-12-14 23:54 ` [PATCH v7 10/11] net: dsa: qca8k: add LEDs support Christian Marangi
2022-12-15 3:54 ` Arun.Ramadoss
2022-12-15 17:49 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-12-16 17:48 ` Christian Marangi
2022-12-20 23:11 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-12-14 23:54 ` [PATCH v7 11/11] dt-bindings: net: dsa: qca8k: add LEDs definition example Christian Marangi
2022-12-20 17:39 ` Rob Herring
2022-12-20 23:20 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-12-21 1:41 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-12-21 12:54 ` Christian Marangi
2022-12-21 12:59 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-12-21 15:29 ` Rob Herring
2023-01-29 20:43 ` Sander Vanheule
2023-01-29 22:02 ` Andrew Lunn
2023-01-30 10:59 ` Sander Vanheule
2023-01-30 13:48 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-12-20 23:23 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-12-15 15:34 ` [PATCH v7 00/11] Adds support for PHY LEDs with offload triggers Alexander Stein
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