From: Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>
To: "Michał Cłapiński" <mclapinski@google.com>,
"Ira Weiny" <ira.weiny@intel.com>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
Vishal Verma <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>, <nvdimm@lists.linux.dev>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
"Borislav Petkov (AMD)" <bp@alien8.de>,
"Ard Biesheuvel" <ardb@kernel.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>, <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/2] libnvdimm/e820: Add a new parameter to configure many regions per e820 entry
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2025 19:49:43 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <68b0f92761d25_293b329449@iweiny-mobl.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAi7L5djEJCVzWWjDMO7WKbXgx6Geba6bku=Gjj2DnBtysQC4A@mail.gmail.com>
Michał Cłapiński wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 1, 2025 at 2:05 PM Michał Cłapiński <mclapinski@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 11:16 PM Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Michal Clapinski wrote:
> > > > This includes:
> > > > 1. Splitting one e820 entry into many regions.
> > > > 2. Conversion to devdax during boot.
> > > >
> > > > This change is needed for the hypervisor live update. VMs' memory will
> > > > be backed by those emulated pmem devices. To support various VM shapes
> > > > I want to create devdax devices at 1GB granularity similar to hugetlb.
> > > > Also detecting those devices as devdax during boot speeds up the whole
> > > > process. Conversion in userspace would be much slower which is
> > > > unacceptable while trying to minimize
> > >
> > > Did you explore the NFIT injection strategy which Dan suggested?[1]
> > >
> > > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/6807f0bfbe589_71fe2944d@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com.notmuch/
> > >
> > > If so why did it not work?
> >
> > I'm new to all this so I might be off on some/all of the things.
> >
> > My issues with NFIT:
> > 1. I can either go with custom bios or acpi nfit injection. Custom
> > bios sounds rather aggressive to me and I'd prefer to avoid this. The
> > NFIT injection is done via initramfs, right? If a system doesn't use
> > initramfs at the moment, that would introduce another step in the boot
> > process. One of the requirements of the hypervisor live update project
> > is that the boot process has to be blazing fast and I'm worried
> > introducing initramfs would go against this requirement.
> > 2. If I were to create an NFIT, it would have to contain thousands of
> > entries. That would have to be parsed on every boot. Again, I'm
> > worried about the performance.
> >
> > Do you think an NFIT solution could be as fast as the simple command
> > line solution?
>
> Hello,
> just a follow up email. I'd like to receive some feedback on this.
Apologies. I'm not keen on adding kernel parameters so I'm curious what
you think about Mike's new driver?[1]
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/68b0f8a31a2b8_293b3294ae@iweiny-mobl.notmuch/
Ira
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-29 0:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-12 11:42 [PATCH v3 0/2] libnvdimm/e820: Add a new parameter to configure many regions per e820 entry Michal Clapinski
2025-06-12 11:42 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] libnvdimm/e820: Add a new parameter to split e820 entry into many regions Michal Clapinski
2025-06-12 11:42 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] libnvdimm: add nd_e820.pmem automatic devdax conversion Michal Clapinski
2025-06-23 10:00 ` kernel test robot
2025-06-25 21:17 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] libnvdimm/e820: Add a new parameter to configure many regions per e820 entry Ira Weiny
2025-07-01 12:05 ` Michał Cłapiński
2025-08-14 13:27 ` Michał Cłapiński
2025-08-29 0:49 ` Ira Weiny [this message]
2025-08-29 2:40 ` Pasha Tatashin
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