From: "Moger, Babu" <babu.moger@amd.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
Peter Newman <peternewman@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 00/27] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 12:51:25 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6c77b065-a54e-4b9c-a4cf-8b81676f2ab2@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8dd6e3a0-b2e1-48a7-8fa4-62e78b1407ae@intel.com>
Hi Reinette,
On 5/20/25 11:06, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> Hi Babu,
>
> On 5/20/25 8:28 AM, Moger, Babu wrote:
>> On 5/19/25 10:59, Peter Newman wrote:
>>> On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 12:52 AM Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com> wrote:
>
> ...
>
>>>> /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/num_mbm_cntrs: Reports the number of monitoring
>>>> counters available for assignment.
>>>
>>> Earlier I discussed with Reinette[1] what num_mbm_cntrs should
>>> represent in a "soft-ABMC" implementation where assignment is
>>> implemented by assigning an RMID, which would result in all events
>>> being assigned at once.
>>>
>>> My main concern is how many "counters" you can assign by assigning
>>> RMIDs. I recall Reinette proposed reporting the number of groups which
>>> can be assigned separately from counters which can be assigned.
>>
>> More context may be needed here. Currently, num_mbm_cntrs indicates the
>> number of counters available per domain, which is 32.
>>
>> At the moment, we can assign 2 counters to each group, meaning each RMID
>> can be associated with 2 hardware counters. In theory, it's possible to
>> assign all 32 hardware counters to a group—allowing one RMID to be linked
>> with up to 32 counters. However, we currently lack the interface to
>> support that level of assignment.
>>
>> For now, the plan is to support basic assignment and expand functionality
>> later once we have the necessary data structure and requirements.
>
> Looks like some requirements did not make it into this implementation.
> Do you recall the discussion that resulted in you writing [2]? Looks like
> there is a question to Peter in there on how to determine how many "counters"
> are available in soft-ABMC. I interpreted [3] at that time to mean that this
> information would be available in a future AMD publication.
We already have a method to determine the number of counters in soft-ABMC
mode, which Peter has addressed [4].
[4]
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250203132642.2746754-1-peternewman@google.com/
This appears to be more of a workaround, and I doubt it will be included
in any official AMD documentation. Additionally, the long-term direction
is moving towards ABMC.
I don’t believe this workaround needs to be part of the current series. It
can be added later when soft-ABMC is implemented.
>
> Reinette
>
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/afb99efe-0de2-f7ad-d0b8-f2a0ea998efd@amd.com/
> [3] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CALPaoCg3KpF94g2MEmfP_Ro2mQZYFA8sKVkmb+7isotKNgdY9A@mail.gmail.com/
--
Thanks
Babu Moger
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-20 17:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-15 22:51 [PATCH v13 00/27] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Babu Moger
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 01/27] x86/cpufeatures: Add support for " Babu Moger
2025-05-22 20:51 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-27 17:23 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-27 17:54 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-27 18:40 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-27 23:42 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-28 16:18 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 02/27] x86/resctrl: Add ABMC feature in the command line options Babu Moger
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 03/27] x86/resctrl: Consolidate monitoring related data from rdt_resource Babu Moger
2025-05-22 20:52 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-27 18:49 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 04/27] x86/resctrl: Detect Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring feature details Babu Moger
2025-05-22 20:54 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-27 19:52 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-27 20:15 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 05/27] x86/resctrl: Add support to enable/disable AMD ABMC feature Babu Moger
2025-05-22 20:56 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-27 20:21 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 06/27] x86/resctrl: Introduce the interface to display monitor mode Babu Moger
2025-05-22 20:56 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-27 20:33 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 07/27] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to display number of monitoring counters Babu Moger
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 08/27] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_cntr_cfg to track assignable counters at domain Babu Moger
2025-05-22 21:02 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-28 16:56 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-28 17:34 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-28 19:05 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 09/27] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to display number of free MBM counters Babu Moger
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 10/27] x86/resctrl: Add data structures and definitions for ABMC assignment Babu Moger
2025-05-22 21:10 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-28 19:15 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 11/27] x86/resctrl: Implement resctrl_arch_config_cntr() to assign a counter with ABMC Babu Moger
2025-05-22 21:51 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-22 22:16 ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-23 21:08 ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-26 13:14 ` Peter Newman
2025-05-27 21:41 ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-28 21:41 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-28 22:00 ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-28 22:13 ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-28 23:48 ` Moger, Babu
2025-06-09 14:01 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-28 21:39 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 12/27] x86/resctrl: Introduce event configuration modes Babu Moger
2025-05-22 22:05 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-29 15:21 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 13/27] x86/resctrl: Add the functionality to assign MBM events Babu Moger
2025-05-22 22:41 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-29 16:05 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 14/27] x86/resctrl: Add the functionality to unassign " Babu Moger
2025-05-22 22:49 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-29 16:25 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 15/27] x86/resctrl: Report 'Unassigned' for MBM events in mbm_cntr_assign mode Babu Moger
2025-05-22 23:01 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-29 16:58 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 16/27] x86/resctrl: Pass entire struct rdtgroup rather than passing individual members Babu Moger
2025-05-22 23:05 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-29 18:07 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 17/27] x86/resctrl: Add the support for reading ABMC counters Babu Moger
2025-05-22 23:31 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-29 18:25 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 18/27] x86/resctrl: Add definitions for MBM event configuration Babu Moger
2025-05-23 4:41 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-29 19:00 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-29 20:58 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-03 13:41 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 19/27] x86/resctrl: Add event configuration directory under info/L3_MON/ Babu Moger
2025-05-23 4:43 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-29 19:54 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 20/27] x86/resctrl: Provide interface to update the event configurations Babu Moger
2025-05-23 4:45 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-29 22:35 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 21/27] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_assign_on_mkdir to configure assignments Babu Moger
2025-05-23 4:48 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-29 23:03 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-30 20:54 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-03 14:00 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 22/27] x86/resctrl: Auto assign/unassign counters when mbm_cntr_assign is enabled Babu Moger
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 23/27] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_L3_assignments to list assignments in a group Babu Moger
2025-05-23 4:47 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-30 0:55 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 24/27] x86/resctrl: Introduce the interface to modify " Babu Moger
2025-05-26 9:48 ` Peter Newman
2025-05-27 15:24 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 25/27] x86/resctrl: Hide the BMEC related files when mbm_cnt_assign is enabled Babu Moger
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 26/27] x86/resctrl: Introduce the interface to switch between monitor modes Babu Moger
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 27/27] x86/resctrl: Configure mbm_cntr_assign mode if supported Babu Moger
2025-05-19 15:59 ` [PATCH v13 00/27] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Peter Newman
2025-05-20 15:28 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-20 16:06 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-20 17:51 ` Moger, Babu [this message]
2025-05-20 18:23 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-20 23:25 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-20 23:44 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-21 9:18 ` Peter Newman
2025-05-21 23:03 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-21 23:43 ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-22 0:10 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-22 0:21 ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-22 8:47 ` Peter Newman
2025-05-22 16:32 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-22 17:21 ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-22 15:44 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-22 16:33 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-22 19:15 ` Moger, Babu
2025-06-10 23:19 ` Moger, Babu
2025-06-11 18:29 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-11 21:21 ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-21 14:27 ` Peter Newman
2025-05-21 23:05 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-22 9:14 ` Peter Newman
2025-05-22 16:33 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-22 20:44 ` Reinette Chatre
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