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From: Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: "Chatre, Reinette" <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"Dave.Martin@arm.com" <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
	"james.morse@arm.com" <james.morse@arm.com>,
	"corbet@lwn.net" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"skhan@linuxfoundation.org" <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"tglx@kernel.org" <tglx@kernel.org>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"dave.hansen@linux.intel.com" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"hpa@zytor.com" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Eranian, Stephane" <eranian@google.com>,
	"peternewman@google.com" <peternewman@google.com>
Subject: Re: RE: [PATCH 1/2] x86/resctrl, Documentation: Keep mbm_assign_mode "default" on boot
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2026 15:18:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <73737438-01ed-437e-846a-5aa8bd687462@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SJ1PR11MB6083636E406ABF9F64CE3F25FCCB2@SJ1PR11MB6083.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Tony,

On 7/28/26 14:58, Luck, Tony wrote:
>> ABMC mode (also referred to as mbm_event mode) relies on ABMC counters,
>> and this system provides only 32 such counters.
>>
>> By comparison, the default mode uses RMIDs, with up to 4096 RMIDs
>> available. However, even though the RMID space is much larger, the
>> hardware can track only 64 RMIDs concurrently. As a result, if pqos
>> attempts to monitor more than 64 groups, the reported bandwidth
>> measurements may become inaccurate.
>>
>> That said, I have not been able to reproduce any bandwidth inaccuracies
>> on the systems I tested. My point is that this may not be a significant
>> issue for the vast majority of users
> 
> How did you try to reproduce? It seems that it should be trivial to create
> more than 64 monitor groups with active tasks assigned to each group.
> That ought to show the issue quickly.

I started "pqos -m" to create 256 monitoring threads. It did not happen 
in this case.

Reinette has already instrumented the kernel to force the issue. So, we 
know the issue can happen.


> 
> What does happen when I'm reading the memory bandwidth from a
> monitor group and the underlying counter for that RMID is stolen for
> use by another group, and then later this group steals a counter from
> someone else?
> 
> I'm expecting "Unavailable" while there is no counter. But I'm not sure
> what happens when a counter is reacquired.
> 
> 1) Does it start over from zero?
> 	Seems a sane option.
> 2) Or does the monitor group see whatever the counter was at
> when being used by some other group?
> 	Seems less sane.

As per this code, it should start over from 0.

  } else if (ret == -EINVAL) {
                 am = get_arch_mbm_state(hw_dom, rmid, eventid);
                 if (am)
                         am->prev_msr = 0;
         }

Thanks
Babu

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-28 20:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-17 21:13 [PATCH 1/2] x86/resctrl, Documentation: Keep mbm_assign_mode "default" on boot Babu Moger
2026-07-17 21:13 ` [PATCH 2/2] x86/resctrl: Fix ABMC counter programming for extended counter ranges Babu Moger
2026-07-17 22:56 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86/resctrl, Documentation: Keep mbm_assign_mode "default" on boot Reinette Chatre
2026-07-20 17:00   ` Babu Moger
2026-07-20 18:27     ` Reinette Chatre
2026-07-20 19:15       ` Babu Moger
2026-07-21 20:54         ` Reinette Chatre
2026-07-23 18:03           ` Babu Moger
2026-07-23 21:46             ` Reinette Chatre
2026-07-24 20:57               ` Moger, Babu
2026-07-24 22:28                 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-07-24 23:12                   ` Borislav Petkov
2026-07-24 23:53                     ` Reinette Chatre
2026-07-27 14:05                       ` Borislav Petkov
2026-07-27 15:25                         ` Reinette Chatre
2026-07-27 17:24                           ` Babu Moger
2026-07-27 18:12                             ` Reinette Chatre
2026-07-27 20:17                               ` Babu Moger
2026-07-27 21:42                                 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-07-27 22:44                                   ` Moger, Babu
2026-07-27 23:29                                     ` Moger, Babu
2026-07-28  0:29                                       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-07-28 17:04                                         ` Borislav Petkov
2026-07-28 17:25                                         ` Babu Moger
2026-07-20 20:12 ` Babu Moger
2026-07-28 19:18 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-07-28 19:46   ` Babu Moger
2026-07-28 19:58     ` Luck, Tony
2026-07-28 20:18       ` Babu Moger [this message]
2026-07-28 20:24         ` Luck, Tony
2026-07-28 20:43           ` Babu Moger
2026-07-28 21:58             ` Reinette Chatre
2026-07-28 22:20               ` Moger, Babu

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