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From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
To: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Wolfram Sang <wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] docs: submitting-patches: Clarify half-baked review tags
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2026 16:53:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <76b98471-ae9b-4ff3-8337-b50d75c4b7de@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f5ac5472-da79-4ac5-82de-36b2f5978f45@suse.com>

On 05/11/2026 16:44, Juergen Gross wrote:
> On 05.11.26 16:33, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>> On 05/11/2026 10:30, Jürgen Groß wrote:
>>> On 05.11.26 10:19, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Nov 05, 2026 at 09:27:30AM +0100, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>>>> Refactoring of driver subsystems or some core driver parts often come
>>>>> with change of the actual drivers.  If that happens within one patch,
>>>>> people giving "Reviewed-by" tag only to piece of the patch, like one
>>>>> driver, and ignoring the rest including the main concept of the patch,
>>>>> are not really reviewing "the patch".
>>>>>
>>>>> As explained in the Submitting Patches document, the "Reviewer's
>>>>> statement of oversight" is for patch as in "entire patch" meaning:
>>>>>
>>>>>     (a) I have carried out a technical review of this patch to
>>>>>         evaluate its appropriateness and readiness for inclusion into
>>>>>         the mainline kernel.
>>>>>
>>>>> The sentence is explicit and complete, meaning it does not allow
>>>>> implicit variations like: "this patch or part of this patch".
>>>>>
>>>>> Reviewing pieces of the patch while ignoring the main part of it, is
>>>>> much closer to Acknowledgment, thus Ack, and "Reviewed-by" credit should
>>>>> not be applicable.
>>>>
>>>> I strongly disagree. It's all explained in the plenty threads you have started
>>>> on the Subject.
>>>>
>>>> TL;DR: As a reviewer for the piece in question I have done my part fully. It's
>>>> not my issue that the piece is bundled into a single patch. We have options:
>>>> 1) ask to split (and review as standalone piece);
>>>> 2) add (partial) Rb with the pointers of what exactly has been reviewed;
>>>> 3) ignore (silent agreement with the respective subsystem maintainer's opinion);
>>>> 4) ...something I forgot?..
>>>>
>>>> (even partial) Rb != Ack.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I fully agree with Andy.
>>>
>>> As the Xen maintainer I often have to look into such rework patches and often
>>> enough especially the Xen specific parts are mentioned in the patch description
>>> as "compile tested only".
>>>
>>> I see a "Reviewed-by: ... # Xen parts" in such cases as a feedback to the author
>>> or committer that they don't have to look into those parts in more detail.
>>>
>>> The value of such a R-b: is more questionable in case of a pure rename of a
>>> function or struct member, of course.
>>>
>>
>> So you don't agree with "Reviewed-by: # subpart"? Sorry, but I have
>> troubles pointing your disagreement arguments to actual patch content.
> I agree that "Reviewed-by: # subpart" is very valuable and should be used
> in cases where the review really adds some value.
> 
> It is different to "Acked-by:" and IMHO not interchangeable with it.

The patch does not make them interchangeable. The patch suggest two
choices if the reviewer's statement of oversight does not apply.

So repeating - which part of patch you disagree with? That reviewer's
statement of oversight says something else?

Best regards,
Krzysztof


  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-05 15:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-05  8:27 [PATCH v2] docs: submitting-patches: Clarify half-baked review tags Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-11-05  8:50 ` Wolfram Sang
2026-11-05  8:57   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-11-05  9:06     ` Wolfram Sang
2026-11-05  9:12       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-11-05  9:26         ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-11-05 10:59           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-11-05  9:28         ` Wolfram Sang
2026-11-05 11:03           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-11-05 11:19             ` Wolfram Sang
2026-11-05 11:53               ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-11-05 12:56                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-11-05 14:14                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-11-05  9:29       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-11-05  9:44         ` Wolfram Sang
2026-11-05  9:47           ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-11-05  9:19 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-11-05  9:27   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-11-05  9:48     ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-11-05 10:55       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-11-05  9:30   ` Jürgen Groß
2026-11-05 15:33     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-11-05 15:44       ` Juergen Gross
2026-11-05 15:53         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2026-11-05 15:59           ` Jürgen Groß
2026-11-05 16:22             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski

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