From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Cc: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/4] dma-buf: Flag vmap'ed memory as system or I/O memory
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 13:09:46 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <774e382e-6e60-450c-ee88-bd9ea2916fb4@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200929091445.GI438822@phenom.ffwll.local>
Am 29.09.20 um 11:14 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 01:22:13PM +0200, Christian König wrote:
>> Am 28.09.20 um 09:37 schrieb Thomas Zimmermann:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Am 28.09.20 um 08:50 schrieb Christian König:
>>>> Am 27.09.20 um 21:16 schrieb Sam Ravnborg:
>>>>> Hi Thomas.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> struct simap {
>>>>>>> union {
>>>>>>> void __iomem *vaddr_iomem;
>>>>>>> void *vaddr;
>>>>>>> };
>>>>>>> bool is_iomem;
>>>>>>> };
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where simap is a shorthand for system_iomem_map
>>>>>>> And it could al be stuffed into a include/linux/simap.h file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not totally sold on the simap name - but wanted to come up with
>>>>>>> something.
>>>>>> Yes. Others, myself included, have suggested to use a name that does not
>>>>>> imply a connection to the dma-buf framework, but no one has come up with
>>>>>> a good name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I strongly dislike simap, as it's entirely non-obvious what it does.
>>>>>> dma-buf-map is not actually wrong. The structures represents the mapping
>>>>>> of a dma-able buffer in most cases.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With this approach users do not have to pull in dma-buf to use it and
>>>>>>> users will not confuse that this is only for dma-buf usage.
>>>>>> There's no need to enable dma-buf. It's all in the header file without
>>>>>> dependencies on dma-buf. It's really just the name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But there's something else to take into account. The whole issue here is
>>>>>> that the buffer is disconnected from its originating driver, so we don't
>>>>>> know which kind of memory ops we have to use. Thinking about it, I
>>>>>> realized that no one else seemed to have this problem until now.
>>>>>> Otherwise there would be a solution already. So maybe the dma-buf
>>>>>> framework *is* the native use case for this data structure.
>>>>> We have at least:
>>>>> linux/fb.h:
>>>>> union {
>>>>> char __iomem *screen_base; /* Virtual address */
>>>>> char *screen_buffer;
>>>>> };
>>>>>
>>>>> Which solve more or less the same problem.
>>> I thought this was for convenience. The important is_iomem bit is missing.
>>>
>>>> I also already noted that in TTM we have exactly the same problem and a
>>>> whole bunch of helpers to allow operations on those pointers.
>>> How do you call this within TTM?
>> ttm_bus_placement, but I really don't like that name.
>>
>>> The data structure represents a pointer to either system or I/O memory,
>>> but not necessatrily device memory. It contains raw data. That would
>>> give something like
>>>
>>> struct databuf_map
>>> struct databuf_ptr
>>> struct dbuf_map
>>> struct dbuf_ptr
>>>
>>> My favorite would be dbuf_ptr. It's short and the API names would make
>>> sense: dbuf_ptr_clear() for clearing, dbuf_ptr_set_vaddr() to set an
>>> address, dbuf_ptr_incr() to increment, etc. Also, the _ptr indicates
>>> that it's a single address; not an offset with length.
>> Puh, no idea. All of that doesn't sound like it 100% hits the underlying
>> meaning of the structure.
> Imo first let's merge this and then second with more users we might come
> up with a better name. And cocci is fairly good at large-scale rename, to
> the point where we manged to rename struct fence to struct dma_fence.
Agreed, renaming things later on is easy if somebody comes up with
something better.
But blocking a necessary technical change just because of the naming is
usually not a good idea.
Christian.
>
> Also this entire thread here imo shows that we haven't yet figured out the
> perfect name anyway, and I don't think it's worth it to hold this up
> because of this bikeshed :-)
>
> Cheers, Daniel
>
>> Christian.
>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>>> Christian.
>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, if a better name than dma-buf-map comes in, I'm willing to
>>>>>> rename the thing. Otherwise I intend to merge the patchset by the end of
>>>>>> the week.
>>>>> Well, the main thing is that I think this shoud be moved away from
>>>>> dma-buf. But if indeed dma-buf is the only relevant user in drm then
>>>>> I am totally fine with the current naming.
>>>>>
>>>>> One alternative named that popped up in my head: struct sys_io_map {}
>>>>> But again, if this is kept in dma-buf then I am fine with the current
>>>>> naming.
>>>>>
>>>>> In other words, if you continue to think this is mostly a dma-buf
>>>>> thing all three patches are:
>>>>> Acked-by: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sam
>>>> _______________________________________________
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Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-25 11:55 [PATCH v3 0/4] dma-buf: Flag vmap'ed memory as system or I/O memory Thomas Zimmermann
2020-09-25 11:55 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] dma-buf: Add struct dma-buf-map for storing struct dma_buf.vaddr_ptr Thomas Zimmermann
2020-09-25 11:55 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] dma-buf: Use struct dma_buf_map in dma_buf_vmap() interfaces Thomas Zimmermann
2020-09-25 11:56 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] dma-buf: Use struct dma_buf_map in dma_buf_vunmap() interfaces Thomas Zimmermann
2020-09-25 11:56 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] dma-buf: Document struct dma_buf_map Thomas Zimmermann
2020-09-25 18:57 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] dma-buf: Flag vmap'ed memory as system or I/O memory Tomasz Figa
2020-09-26 7:13 ` Sam Ravnborg
2020-09-27 18:36 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-09-27 19:16 ` Sam Ravnborg
2020-09-28 6:50 ` Christian König
2020-09-28 7:37 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-09-28 11:22 ` Christian König
2020-09-29 9:14 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-29 11:09 ` Christian König [this message]
2020-09-29 11:14 ` Thomas Zimmermann
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