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From: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 13/19] x86/resctrl: Add PLZA state tracking and context switch handling
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2026 08:17:40 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7a4ea07d-88e6-4f0f-a3ce-4fd97388cec4@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bbe80a9a-70f0-4cd1-bd6a-4a45212aa80b@amd.com>

Hi Babu,

On 1/28/26 9:44 AM, Moger, Babu wrote:
> 
> 
> On 1/28/2026 11:41 AM, Moger, Babu wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2026 at 10:01:39AM -0600, Moger, Babu wrote:
>>>> On 1/27/2026 4:30 PM, Luck, Tony wrote:
>>> Babu,
>>>
>>> I've read a bit more of the code now and I think I understand more.
>>>
>>> Some useful additions to your explanation.
>>>
>>> 1) Only one CTRL group can be marked as PLZA
>>
>> Yes. Correct.

Why limit it to one CTRL_MON group and why not support it for MON groups?

Limiting it to a single CTRL group seems restrictive in a few ways:
1) It requires that the "PLZA" group has a dedicated CLOSID. This reduces the
   number of use cases that can be supported. Consider, for example, an existing
   "high priority" resource group and a "low priority" resource group. The user may
   just want to let the tasks in the "low priority" resource group run as "high priority"
   when in CPL0. This of course may depend on what resources are allocated, for example
   cache may need more care, but if, for example, user is only interested in memory
   bandwidth allocation this seems a reasonable use case?
2) Similar to what Tony [1] mentioned this does not enable what the hardware is
   capable of in terms of number of different control groups/CLOSID that can be
   assigned to MSR_IA32_PQR_PLZA_ASSOC. Why limit PLZA to one CLOSID?
3) The feature seems to support RMID in MSR_IA32_PQR_PLZA_ASSOC similar to
   MSR_IA32_PQR_ASSOC. With this, it should be possible for user space to, for
   example, create a resource group that contains tasks of interest and create
   a monitor group within it that monitors all tasks' bandwidth usage when in CPL0.
   This will give user space better insight into system behavior and from what I can
   tell is supported by the feature but not enabled?

>>
>>> 2) It can't be the root/default group
>>
>> This is something I added to keep the default group in a un-disturbed,

Why was this needed?

>>
>>> 3) It can't have sub monitor groups

Why not?

>>> 4) It can't be pseudo-locked
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>>
>>> Would a potential use case involve putting *all* tasks into the PLZA group? That
>>> would avoid any additional context switch overhead as the PLZA MSR would never
>>> need to change.
>>
>> Yes. That can be one use case.
>>
>>>
>>> If that is the case, maybe for the PLZA group we should allow user to
>>> do:
>>>
>>> # echo '*' > tasks

Dedicating a resource group to "PLZA" seems restrictive while also adding many
complications since this designation makes resource group behave differently and
thus the files need to get extra "treatments" to handle this "PLZA" designation.

I am wondering if it will not be simpler to introduce just one new file, for example
"tasks_cpl0" in both CTRL_MON and MON groups. When user space writes a task ID to the
file it "enables" PLZA for this task and that group's CLOSID and RMID is the associated
task's "PLZA" CLOSID and RMID. This gives user space the flexibility to use the same
resource group to manage user space and kernel space allocations while also supporting
various monitoring use cases. This still supports the "dedicate a resource group to PLZA"
use case where user space can create a new resource group with certain allocations but the
"tasks" file will be empty and "tasks_cpl0" contains the tasks needing to run with
the resource group's allocations when in CPL0.

Reinette

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/aXpgragcLS2L8ROe@agluck-desk3/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-02-10 16:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-21 21:12 [RFC PATCH 00/19] x86,fs/resctrl: Support for Global Bandwidth Enforcement and Priviledge Level Zero Association Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 01/19] x86,fs/resctrl: Add support for Global Bandwidth Enforcement (GLBE) Babu Moger
2026-02-09 18:44   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-11  1:07     ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-11 16:54       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-11 21:18         ` Babu Moger
2026-02-12  3:51           ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-12 19:09             ` Babu Moger
2026-02-13  0:05               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-13  1:51                 ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-13 16:17                   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-13 23:14                     ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-14  0:01                       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-16 16:05                         ` Babu Moger
2026-02-20 10:07             ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-20 18:39               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-23  9:29                 ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-21  0:12               ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-23 13:21             ` Fenghua Yu
2026-02-23 17:38               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-23 13:21             ` Fenghua Yu
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 02/19] x86,fs/resctrl: Add the resource for Global Memory Bandwidth Allocation Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 03/19] fs/resctrl: Add new interface max_bandwidth Babu Moger
2026-02-06 23:58   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-09 23:52     ` Moger, Babu
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 04/19] fs/resctrl: Add the documentation for Global Memory Bandwidth Allocation Babu Moger
2026-02-03  0:00   ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-03 16:38     ` Babu Moger
2026-02-09 16:32       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-10 19:44         ` Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 05/19] x86,fs/resctrl: Add support for Global Slow Memory Bandwidth Allocation (GSMBA) Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 06/19] x86,fs/resctrl: Add the resource for Global Slow Memory Bandwidth Enforcement(GLSBE) Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 07/19] fs/resctrl: Add the documentation for Global Slow Memory Bandwidth Allocation Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 08/19] x86/resctrl: Support Privilege-Level Zero Association (PLZA) Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 09/19] x86/resctrl: Add plza_capable in rdt_resource data structure Babu Moger
2026-02-11 15:19   ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-11 16:54     ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-11 17:48       ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-13 15:50     ` Moger, Babu
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 10/19] fs/resctrl: Expose plza_capable via control info file Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 11/19] resctrl: Introduce PLZA static key enable/disable helpers Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 12/19] x86/resctrl: Add data structures and definitions for PLZA configuration Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 13/19] x86/resctrl: Add PLZA state tracking and context switch handling Babu Moger
2026-01-27 22:30   ` Luck, Tony
2026-01-28 16:01     ` Moger, Babu
2026-01-28 17:12       ` Luck, Tony
2026-01-28 17:41         ` Moger, Babu
2026-01-28 17:44           ` Moger, Babu
2026-01-28 19:17             ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-10 16:17             ` Reinette Chatre [this message]
2026-02-10 18:04               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-11 16:40                 ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-11 19:46                   ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-11 22:22                   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-12 13:55                     ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-12 18:37                       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-16 15:18                         ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-17 18:51                           ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-17 21:44                             ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-17 22:37                               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-17 22:52                                 ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-17 23:55                                   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-18 16:44                                     ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-19 17:03                                       ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-19 17:45                                         ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-20  8:21                                         ` Drew Fustini
2026-02-19 17:33                                       ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-20  2:53                                       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-20 22:44                                         ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-23 17:12                                           ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-23 22:35                                             ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-23 23:13                                               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-24 19:37                                                 ` Babu Moger
2026-02-23 10:08                                         ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-23 16:38                                           ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-24  9:36                                             ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-24 16:13                                               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-19 11:06                               ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-19 18:12                                 ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-19 18:36                                   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-19 10:21                             ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-19 18:14                               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-23  9:48                                 ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-13 16:37               ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-13 17:02                 ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-16 19:24                   ` Babu Moger
2026-02-14  0:10                 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-16 15:41                   ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-16 22:52                     ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-17 15:56                       ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-17 16:38                         ` Babu Moger
2026-02-18  9:54                           ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-18  6:22                         ` Stephane Eranian
2026-02-18  9:35                           ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-19 10:27                             ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-16 22:36                   ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-12 10:00       ` Ben Horgan
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 14/19] x86,fs/resctrl: Add the functionality to configure PLZA Babu Moger
2026-01-29 19:13   ` Luck, Tony
2026-01-29 19:53     ` Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 15/19] fs/resctrl: Introduce PLZA attribute in rdtgroup interface Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 16/19] fs/resctrl: Implement rdtgroup_plza_write() to configure PLZA in a group Babu Moger
2026-01-28 22:03   ` Luck, Tony
2026-01-29 18:54     ` Luck, Tony
2026-01-29 19:31       ` Babu Moger
2026-01-29 19:42     ` Babu Moger
2026-02-10  0:05   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-11 23:10     ` Moger, Babu
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 17/19] fs/resctrl: Update PLZA configuration when cpu_mask changes Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 18/19] x86/resctrl: Refactor show_rdt_tasks() to support PLZA task matching Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 19/19] fs/resctrl: Add per-task PLZA enable support via rdtgroup Babu Moger
2026-02-03 19:58 ` [RFC PATCH 00/19] x86,fs/resctrl: Support for Global Bandwidth Enforcement and Priviledge Level Zero Association Luck, Tony
2026-02-10  0:27   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-11  0:40     ` Drew Fustini

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