From: "Joseph, Jithu" <jithu.joseph@intel.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC 08/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add IFS sysfs interface
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2022 11:55:26 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7c620f8a-189e-5ac4-30fe-1fa14ba799ea@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4g5bq9+u0iLjhpeJw8bkbCREUw60H2z_KfDz4hHCrKdFQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 3/7/2022 11:15 AM, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 11:09 AM Joseph, Jithu <jithu.joseph@intel.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/7/2022 9:38 AM, Dan Williams wrote:
>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 12:42 PM Joseph, Jithu <jithu.joseph@intel.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>> + */
>>>>>> +static ssize_t details_show(struct device *dev,
>>>>>> + struct device_attribute *attr,
>>>>>> + char *buf)
>>>>>> +{
>>>>>> + unsigned int cpu = dev->id;
>>>>>> + int ret;
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> + if (down_trylock(&ifs_sem))
>>>>>> + return -EBUSY;
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the ifs_sem protecting? This result is immediately invalid
>>>>> after the lock is dropped anyway, so why hold it over reading the
>>>>> value? You can't prevent 2 threads racing each other here.
>>>>
>>>> percpu thread running scan_test_worker() will update per_cpu(ifs_state, cpu).scan_details. (before signalling this thread to run, this lock would be acquired)
>>>> This is to protect against the scenario where if the percpu thread is running a test and if at the same time a user is querying its status, they would see busy.
>>>
>>> That begs the question why would userspace be polling this file? Is it
>>> because it does not know when a test completes otherwise? How does it
>>> know that the result it is seeing is from the test it ran and not some
>>> other invocation to start a new test?
>>
>> I think I should have explained the need for locking at a higher level .
>> It is to make sure that only one of the below action happens at any time
>>
>> 1. single percpu test
>> 2. all-cpu test (tests all cores sequentially)
>> 3. scan binary reload
>> 4. querying the status
>>
>> (There are h/w reasons for why we restrict to a single IFS test at any time)
>> If 4 happens while 1 or 2 is in progress , we return busy. My earlier explanation was trying to explain why we are preventing 4 when 1 or 2 is in progress.
>>
>> As to the question of why would a user do 4 while 1 or 2 is in progress, there is no reason for him to do that, both the run_test (percpu and global) are blocking.
>> But if he issues a test from one shell and uses another shell to query the status (while it is still in progress) he will see busy.
>
> ...and what about the race that the semaphore cannot solve of test run
> launch racing collection of previous run results?
pardon me if I am missing something obvious here … but everybody (the 4 scenarios listed above) tries to acquire the same semaphore, or returns -EBUSY if try_lock() fails.
So in case of triggering "run_test" and viewing "status" racing scenario you mention, the below are the 2 interleaving I see
if "echo 1 > /sys/devices/sysem/cpu/cpu10/ifs/run_test" gets the lock , the parallel "cat /sys/devices/sysem/cpu/cpu10/ifs/status" will return busy (and not the previous status)
if "cat /sys/devices/sysem/cpu/cpu10/ifs/status", gets the lock it will display the status of the last test result and the parallel "echo 1 > /sys/devices/sysem/cpu/cpu10/ifs/run_test" will fail with busy
This I believe is consistent behavior.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-07 19:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-01 19:54 [RFC 00/10] Introduce In Field Scan driver Jithu Joseph
2022-03-01 19:54 ` [RFC 01/10] x86/microcode/intel: expose collect_cpu_info_early() for IFS Jithu Joseph
2022-03-01 20:08 ` Greg KH
2022-03-02 0:56 ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-03-02 10:30 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-03-03 1:34 ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-03-01 19:54 ` [RFC 02/10] Documentation: In-Field Scan Jithu Joseph
2022-03-01 20:07 ` Greg KH
2022-03-02 0:58 ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-03-01 19:54 ` [RFC 03/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add driver for " Jithu Joseph
2022-03-02 23:24 ` Williams, Dan J
2022-03-02 23:31 ` Raj, Ashok
2022-03-03 0:02 ` Luck, Tony
2022-03-03 2:04 ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-03-01 19:54 ` [RFC 04/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Load IFS Image Jithu Joseph
2022-03-03 2:58 ` Williams, Dan J
2022-03-01 19:54 ` [RFC 05/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Check IFS Image sanity Jithu Joseph
2022-03-01 19:54 ` [RFC 06/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Authenticate and copy to secured memory Jithu Joseph
2022-03-01 19:54 ` [RFC 07/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Create kthreads for online cpus for scan test Jithu Joseph
2022-03-03 4:17 ` Williams, Dan J
2022-03-03 19:59 ` Luck, Tony
2022-03-04 19:20 ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-03-07 16:52 ` Dan Williams
2022-03-07 17:46 ` Luck, Tony
2022-03-10 21:42 ` Kok, Auke
2022-03-01 19:54 ` [RFC 08/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add IFS sysfs interface Jithu Joseph
2022-03-04 0:31 ` Williams, Dan J
2022-03-04 16:51 ` Luck, Tony
2022-03-04 20:42 ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-03-04 21:01 ` Luck, Tony
2022-03-21 21:15 ` Luck, Tony
2022-03-07 17:38 ` Dan Williams
2022-03-07 19:09 ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-03-07 19:15 ` Dan Williams
2022-03-07 19:55 ` Joseph, Jithu [this message]
2022-03-07 20:25 ` Dan Williams
2022-03-07 20:56 ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-03-07 21:28 ` Dan Williams
2022-03-07 21:30 ` gregkh
2022-03-07 21:33 ` Luck, Tony
2022-03-01 19:54 ` [RFC 09/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: add ABI documentation for IFS Jithu Joseph
2022-03-04 0:57 ` Williams, Dan J
2022-03-01 19:54 ` [RFC 10/10] trace: platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add trace point to track Intel IFS operations Jithu Joseph
2022-03-01 20:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-03-02 1:02 ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-03-01 20:10 ` [RFC 00/10] Introduce In Field Scan driver Greg KH
2022-03-01 20:14 ` Greg KH
2022-03-14 23:10 ` Luck, Tony
2022-03-15 7:34 ` Greg KH
2022-03-15 14:59 ` Luck, Tony
2022-03-15 15:26 ` Greg KH
2022-03-15 16:04 ` Dan Williams
2022-03-15 16:09 ` Dan Williams
2022-03-15 16:10 ` Luck, Tony
2022-03-16 8:09 ` Greg KH
2022-03-02 15:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-03-02 16:20 ` Greg KH
2022-03-02 13:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-03-02 20:29 ` Luck, Tony
2022-03-02 21:18 ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-03-02 21:41 ` Luck, Tony
2022-03-02 23:11 ` Williams, Dan J
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