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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Julian Braha" <julianbraha@gmail.com>,
	"Graham Roff" <grahamr@qti.qualcomm.com>,
	"Nathan Chancellor" <nathan@kernel.org>,
	"Nicolas Schier" <nsc@kernel.org>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Nicolas Pitre" <nico@fluxnic.net>,
	"Jani Nikula" <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	"Masahiro Yamada" <masahiroy@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] kconfig: Support conditional deps using "depends on X if Y"
Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2026 17:33:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7e20408b-3a0d-46ff-ab6c-2b0d86f74adc@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <955bf67f-309d-45d4-ac0d-2f53577aa18e@gmail.com>

On Sat, Jul 4, 2026, at 15:23, Julian Braha wrote:
> On 12/15/25 23:06, Graham Roff wrote:
>> Previously such optional dependencies had to be expressed as
>> the counterintuitive "depends on X || !X", now this can be
>> represented as "depends on X if X".
>
> I have always found both of these:
> 'depends on X || !X'
> and:
> 'depends on X if X'
>
> to be unintuitive and confusing to read.
>
> Yes, I understand from the docs that the purpose is to disallow
> FOO=Y with BAR=M, like in this example from the official kconfig docs:
> ```
> config FOO
>       tristate "Support for foo hardware"
>       depends on BAR if BAR
> ```
>
> However, in my testing, neither of these constructs are necessary to
> achieve that.
>
> A very standard 'depends on BAR' also disallows FOO=Y with BAR=M.

The difference is that a plain 'depends on BAR' does not
allow FOO=m with BAR=n. The idea of the construct is that
BAR is optional, but whenever BAR is enabled (m or y) it is
a dependency.

Specifically we need to allow all of

  BAR=n FOO=n
  BAR=n FOO=m
  BAR=n FOO=y
  BAR=m FOO=n
  BAR=m FOO=m
  BAR=y FOO=n
  BAR=y FOO=m
  BAR=y FOO=y

just not BAR=m FOO=y.

     Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-04 15:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-15 23:06 [PATCH v3] kconfig: Support conditional deps using "depends on X if Y" Graham Roff
2025-12-19 19:56 ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-01-04 22:49 ` Randy Dunlap
2026-01-06 22:06 ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-07-04 13:23 ` Julian Braha
2026-07-04 15:33   ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2026-07-04 16:18     ` Julian Braha

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