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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation: KVM: Document guest-visible compatibility expectations
Date: Tue, 19 May 2026 13:56:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86pl2rwoat.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86qzn7wp3y.wl-maz@kernel.org>

On Tue, 19 May 2026 13:38:57 +0100,
Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> As I said before, I'd be OK with something that would restore IIDR to
> REV1. But not something that actively breaks the GIC emulation by
> reintroducing a bug. That's, by construction, dead code that will only
> bitrot, because there is no SW that can make use of this nonsense.

I will also add that if we make it a policy to preserve buggy
behaviours that the guest cannot be relying on, then I question
whether we should be fixing anything at all.

For example, 6.19 fixed a totally buggy behaviour where a guest
couldn't not have more than (on most HW) 4 interrupts in flight at any
given time. This was obviously totally bogus, and this was fixed
unconditionally, as legitimate guests could experience gold-platted
lock-ups.

Should we revert to the previous behaviour? In the affirmative, I will
simply stop fixing things, and someone else can have fun retrofitting
buggy crap.

	M.

-- 
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-19 12:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-11  8:57 [PATCH] Documentation: KVM: Document guest-visible compatibility expectations David Woodhouse
2026-05-11 15:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-05-11 16:38   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-11 16:56     ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-05-11 17:53       ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-13  8:42       ` Marc Zyngier
2026-05-13  9:24         ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-13 12:43           ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-05-13 13:03             ` Eric Auger
2026-05-13 13:57             ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-13 16:24               ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-05-13 18:26                 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-19 10:41                 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-19 11:11                   ` Will Deacon
2026-05-19 11:44                     ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-19 12:13                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-05-19 12:38                         ` Marc Zyngier
2026-05-19 12:56                           ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2026-05-19 13:24                             ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-19 12:59                           ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-19 13:53                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-05-19 14:13                               ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-19 21:10                                 ` Oliver Upton
2026-05-19 21:58                                   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-19 22:57                                     ` Oliver Upton
2026-05-19 23:33                                       ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-20 17:47                                         ` Oliver Upton
2026-05-20 18:29                                           ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-19 12:42                         ` David Woodhouse

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