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From: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
To: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Move kernel-doc to tools/docs
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2026 10:44:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871pjppi57.fsf@trenco.lwn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8a885d30b9915e80a86e4096a0b4a1fb13616a95@intel.com>

Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com> writes:

> On Thu, 15 Jan 2026, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net> wrote:
>> Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org> writes:
>>
>>> On 1/15/26 7:05 AM, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
>>>> Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com> writes:
>>>> 
>>>>> I think the tool source should be called kernel_doc.py or something, and
>>>>> scripts/kernel-doc should be a script running the former.
>>>> 
>>>> I honestly don't get it - why add an extra indirection step here?
>>>
>>> a. compatibility with people in the wild running scripts/kernel-doc
>>
>> That is easily achieved with a symbolic link if we need it.
>>
>>> b. adhere to well-known naming conventions.
>>
>> The normal convention is to not have language-specific extensions on
>> commands.  As in "scripts/kernel-doc".  I still don't understand how
>> making a wrapper script somehow makes this better.
>
> kernel-doc the python source directly messing with sys.path is not
> great. The python source should be able to assume the environment has
> been set up, imports work, etc.

I agree that's not great.  We could of course fix that up in the
makefile; the sys.path manipulation is only for standalone runs.

> The wrapper script is the stable interface that can hide the actual
> location and structure of the python packages and sources, and set up
> the python environment.

I suppose.  I sort of see the existing kernel-doc as *being* the wrapper
script. 

> While I'm not suggesting to package kernel-doc for pypi, I think
> structuring it in a way that it could be is a fairly good guideline for
> managing the source. And I feel like all the other refactoring and
> relocation is already taking us in this direction.

So I guess my feeling is that if somebody really wants to implement that
extra level of indirection, we can consider it.  I won't dig in my heels
*too* deeply.  But it's a separate change from moving the tool, so
should be done on its own.

Thanks,

jon

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-16 17:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-14 16:41 [PATCH 0/2] Move kernel-doc to tools/docs Jonathan Corbet
2026-01-14 16:41 ` [PATCH 1/2] docs: kdoc: remove support for an external kernel-doc from sphinx Jonathan Corbet
2026-01-14 19:42   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-14 16:41 ` [PATCH 2/2] Move kernel-doc to tools/docs Jonathan Corbet
2026-01-14 20:00   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-19  8:23   ` kernel test robot
2026-01-19 10:27   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-14 19:20 ` [PATCH 0/2] " Randy Dunlap
2026-01-14 19:24   ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-01-14 20:25     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-15 10:33       ` Jani Nikula
2026-01-15 12:23         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-15 12:58           ` Jani Nikula
2026-01-15 15:05         ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-01-15 17:31           ` Randy Dunlap
2026-01-15 18:04             ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-01-15 18:48               ` Randy Dunlap
2026-01-16 10:38               ` Jani Nikula
2026-01-16 17:44                 ` Jonathan Corbet [this message]
2026-01-17 10:29                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-16 17:48       ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-01-17 10:00         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-17 18:09           ` Randy Dunlap
2026-01-19 10:17             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab

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