* [PATCH] sched/Documentation: Add RT_RUNTIME_SHARE documentation
@ 2024-01-31 12:32 Zhang Qiao
2024-02-28 22:44 ` Jonathan Corbet
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0 siblings, 3 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Zhang Qiao @ 2024-01-31 12:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: corbet; +Cc: mingo, chrubis, zhangqiao22, linux-doc, linux-kernel
RT_RUNTIME_SHARE is an important strategy for rt bandwidth, and
we should document this sched feature.
Signed-off-by: Zhang Qiao <zhangqiao22@huawei.com>
---
Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst | 11 +++++++++++
1 file changed, 11 insertions(+)
diff --git a/Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst b/Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst
index d685609ed3d7..4d8eceb71f5e 100644
--- a/Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst
+++ b/Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst
@@ -12,6 +12,7 @@ Real-Time group scheduling
2.1 System-wide settings
2.2 Default behaviour
2.3 Basis for grouping tasks
+ 2.4 RT_RUNTIME_SHARE sched feature
3. Future plans
@@ -146,6 +147,16 @@ For now, this can be simplified to just the following (but see Future plans):
\Sum_{i} runtime_{i} <= global_runtime
+2.4 RT_RUNTIME_SHARE sched feature
+----------------------------
+
+RT_RUNTIME_SHARE allows a cpu borrows rt-runtime from other cpus if it runs
+out of its own rt-runtime.
+
+With this feature enabled, a rt-task probably hits 100% cpu usage and starves
+per-cpu tasks like kworkers, as a result, it may hang up the whole system.
+Therefore, in order to avoid such exception, recommand to disable this feature
+by default unless you really know what you're up to.
3. Future plans
===============
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2.18.0.huawei.25
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* Re: [PATCH] sched/Documentation: Add RT_RUNTIME_SHARE documentation
2024-01-31 12:32 [PATCH] sched/Documentation: Add RT_RUNTIME_SHARE documentation Zhang Qiao
@ 2024-02-28 22:44 ` Jonathan Corbet
2024-03-24 3:54 ` Zhang Qiao
2024-04-09 7:25 ` Zhang Qiao
2024-04-12 2:50 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Jonathan Corbet @ 2024-02-28 22:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Zhang Qiao; +Cc: mingo, chrubis, zhangqiao22, linux-doc, linux-kernel
Zhang Qiao <zhangqiao22@huawei.com> writes:
> RT_RUNTIME_SHARE is an important strategy for rt bandwidth, and
> we should document this sched feature.
>
> Signed-off-by: Zhang Qiao <zhangqiao22@huawei.com>
> ---
> Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst | 11 +++++++++++
> 1 file changed, 11 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst b/Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst
> index d685609ed3d7..4d8eceb71f5e 100644
> --- a/Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst
> @@ -12,6 +12,7 @@ Real-Time group scheduling
> 2.1 System-wide settings
> 2.2 Default behaviour
> 2.3 Basis for grouping tasks
> + 2.4 RT_RUNTIME_SHARE sched feature
> 3. Future plans
>
>
> @@ -146,6 +147,16 @@ For now, this can be simplified to just the following (but see Future plans):
>
> \Sum_{i} runtime_{i} <= global_runtime
>
> +2.4 RT_RUNTIME_SHARE sched feature
> +----------------------------
> +
> +RT_RUNTIME_SHARE allows a cpu borrows rt-runtime from other cpus if it runs
> +out of its own rt-runtime.
> +
> +With this feature enabled, a rt-task probably hits 100% cpu usage and starves
> +per-cpu tasks like kworkers, as a result, it may hang up the whole system.
> +Therefore, in order to avoid such exception, recommand to disable this feature
> +by default unless you really know what you're up to.
So this doesn't appear to have been picked up by anybody...should I
carry it in docs, or is there some other reason why it hasn't gone in?
Thanks,
jon
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* Re: [PATCH] sched/Documentation: Add RT_RUNTIME_SHARE documentation
2024-02-28 22:44 ` Jonathan Corbet
@ 2024-03-24 3:54 ` Zhang Qiao
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Zhang Qiao @ 2024-03-24 3:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: corbet; +Cc: chrubis, linux-doc, linux-kernel, mingo, zhangqiao22
hi, Jonathan,
在 2024/3/24 10:47, Zhang Qiao 写道:
>
> Zhang Qiao <zhangqiao22@huawei.com> writes:
>
>> RT_RUNTIME_SHARE is an important strategy for rt bandwidth, and
>> we should document this sched feature.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Zhang Qiao <zhangqiao22@huawei.com>
>> ---
>> Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst | 11 +++++++++++
>> 1 file changed, 11 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst b/Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst
>> index d685609ed3d7..4d8eceb71f5e 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst
>> +++ b/Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst
>> @@ -12,6 +12,7 @@ Real-Time group scheduling
>> 2.1 System-wide settings
>> 2.2 Default behaviour
>> 2.3 Basis for grouping tasks
>> + 2.4 RT_RUNTIME_SHARE sched feature
>> 3. Future plans
>>
>>
>> @@ -146,6 +147,16 @@ For now, this can be simplified to just the following (but see Future plans):
>>
>> \Sum_{i} runtime_{i} <= global_runtime
>>
>> +2.4 RT_RUNTIME_SHARE sched feature
>> +----------------------------
>> +
>> +RT_RUNTIME_SHARE allows a cpu borrows rt-runtime from other cpus if it runs
>> +out of its own rt-runtime.
>> +
>> +With this feature enabled, a rt-task probably hits 100% cpu usage and starves
>> +per-cpu tasks like kworkers, as a result, it may hang up the whole system.
>> +Therefore, in order to avoid such exception, recommand to disable this feature
>> +by default unless you really know what you're up to.
>
> So this doesn't appear to have been picked up by anybody...should I
> carry it in docs, or is there some other reason why it hasn't gone in?
>
I'm not exactly sure why it wasn't added in docs before.
In my opinion, the RT_RUNTIME_SHARE sched features and sched_rt_period_us/sched_rt_runtime_us
parameters are both important parameters of rt bandwidth,it will affect the quota of rt tasks,
and improper configuration may cause the system hang up. So I think it's necessary to add it
in Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst.
Thanks,
Qiao.
> Thanks,
>
> jon
> .
>
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* Re: [PATCH] sched/Documentation: Add RT_RUNTIME_SHARE documentation
2024-01-31 12:32 [PATCH] sched/Documentation: Add RT_RUNTIME_SHARE documentation Zhang Qiao
2024-02-28 22:44 ` Jonathan Corbet
@ 2024-04-09 7:25 ` Zhang Qiao
2024-04-12 2:50 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Zhang Qiao @ 2024-04-09 7:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: corbet
Cc: mingo, chrubis, linux-doc, linux-kernel, Steven Rostedt,
Peter Zijlstra
Ping.
+cc Peter, Steven.
在 2024/1/31 20:32, Zhang Qiao 写道:
> RT_RUNTIME_SHARE is an important strategy for rt bandwidth, and
> we should document this sched feature.
>
> Signed-off-by: Zhang Qiao <zhangqiao22@huawei.com>
> ---
> Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst | 11 +++++++++++
> 1 file changed, 11 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst b/Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst
> index d685609ed3d7..4d8eceb71f5e 100644
> --- a/Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst
> @@ -12,6 +12,7 @@ Real-Time group scheduling
> 2.1 System-wide settings
> 2.2 Default behaviour
> 2.3 Basis for grouping tasks
> + 2.4 RT_RUNTIME_SHARE sched feature
> 3. Future plans
>
>
> @@ -146,6 +147,16 @@ For now, this can be simplified to just the following (but see Future plans):
>
> \Sum_{i} runtime_{i} <= global_runtime
>
> +2.4 RT_RUNTIME_SHARE sched feature
> +----------------------------
> +
> +RT_RUNTIME_SHARE allows a cpu borrows rt-runtime from other cpus if it runs
> +out of its own rt-runtime.
> +
> +With this feature enabled, a rt-task probably hits 100% cpu usage and starves
> +per-cpu tasks like kworkers, as a result, it may hang up the whole system.
> +Therefore, in order to avoid such exception, recommand to disable this feature
> +by default unless you really know what you're up to.
>
> 3. Future plans
> ===============
>
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* Re: [PATCH] sched/Documentation: Add RT_RUNTIME_SHARE documentation
2024-01-31 12:32 [PATCH] sched/Documentation: Add RT_RUNTIME_SHARE documentation Zhang Qiao
2024-02-28 22:44 ` Jonathan Corbet
2024-04-09 7:25 ` Zhang Qiao
@ 2024-04-12 2:50 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2024-04-19 8:51 ` Zhang Qiao
2 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Bagas Sanjaya @ 2024-04-12 2:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Zhang Qiao, corbet
Cc: mingo, chrubis, linux-doc, linux-kernel, Steven Rostedt,
Peter Zijlstra
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On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 08:32:38PM +0800, Zhang Qiao wrote:
> +2.4 RT_RUNTIME_SHARE sched feature
> +----------------------------
htmldocs build reports new warning:
Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst:151: WARNING: Title underline too short.
2.4 RT_RUNTIME_SHARE sched feature
----------------------------
I have to extend the underline:
---- >8 ----
diff --git a/Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst b/Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst
index 4d8eceb71f5ed8..751113fcd35850 100644
--- a/Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst
+++ b/Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst
@@ -148,7 +148,7 @@ For now, this can be simplified to just the following (but see Future plans):
\Sum_{i} runtime_{i} <= global_runtime
2.4 RT_RUNTIME_SHARE sched feature
-----------------------------
+----------------------------------
RT_RUNTIME_SHARE allows a cpu borrows rt-runtime from other cpus if it runs
out of its own rt-runtime.
Wording suggestions below.
> +
> +RT_RUNTIME_SHARE allows a cpu borrows rt-runtime from other cpus if it runs
"... to borrow rt-runtime ..."
> +out of its own rt-runtime.
> +
> +With this feature enabled, a rt-task probably hits 100% cpu usage and starves
"... a rt-task may hit ... and can stall other per-cpu tasks ..."
> +per-cpu tasks like kworkers, as a result, it may hang up the whole system.
"..., which lead into system hang."
> +Therefore, in order to avoid such exception, recommand to disable this feature
> +by default unless you really know what you're up to.
"Thus, it is advised to disable this feature by default to avoid aforementioned
issue unless you know what you're doing."
Thanks.
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* Re: [PATCH] sched/Documentation: Add RT_RUNTIME_SHARE documentation
2024-04-12 2:50 ` Bagas Sanjaya
@ 2024-04-19 8:51 ` Zhang Qiao
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Zhang Qiao @ 2024-04-19 8:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bagas Sanjaya
Cc: mingo, chrubis, linux-doc, linux-kernel, Steven Rostedt,
Peter Zijlstra, corbet
在 2024/4/12 10:50, Bagas Sanjaya 写道:
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 08:32:38PM +0800, Zhang Qiao wrote:
>> +2.4 RT_RUNTIME_SHARE sched feature
>> +----------------------------
>
> htmldocs build reports new warning:
>
> Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst:151: WARNING: Title underline too short.
>
> 2.4 RT_RUNTIME_SHARE sched feature
> ----------------------------
>
> I have to extend the underline:
>
> ---- >8 ----
> diff --git a/Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst b/Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst
> index 4d8eceb71f5ed8..751113fcd35850 100644
> --- a/Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst
> @@ -148,7 +148,7 @@ For now, this can be simplified to just the following (but see Future plans):
> \Sum_{i} runtime_{i} <= global_runtime
>
> 2.4 RT_RUNTIME_SHARE sched feature
> -----------------------------
> +----------------------------------
>
> RT_RUNTIME_SHARE allows a cpu borrows rt-runtime from other cpus if it runs
> out of its own rt-runtime.
>
> Wording suggestions below.
Hi, Bagas,
Thanks for you suggestions, i will update in v2.
Zhang Qiao.
>
>> +
>> +RT_RUNTIME_SHARE allows a cpu borrows rt-runtime from other cpus if it runs
> "... to borrow rt-runtime ..."
>> +out of its own rt-runtime.
>> +
>> +With this feature enabled, a rt-task probably hits 100% cpu usage and starves
> "... a rt-task may hit ... and can stall other per-cpu tasks ..."
>> +per-cpu tasks like kworkers, as a result, it may hang up the whole system.
> "..., which lead into system hang."
>> +Therefore, in order to avoid such exception, recommand to disable this feature
>> +by default unless you really know what you're up to.
> "Thus, it is advised to disable this feature by default to avoid aforementioned
> issue unless you know what you're doing."
>
> Thanks.
>
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