From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
Cc: hdegoede@redhat.com, markgross@kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com,
bp@alien8.de, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, x86@kernel.org,
hpa@zytor.com, corbet@lwn.net, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com, jithu.joseph@intel.com,
ashok.raj@intel.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
dan.j.williams@intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org,
patches@lists.linux.dev, ravi.v.shankar@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 08/11] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add scan test support
Date: Fri, 06 May 2022 21:06:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ee16h45j.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YnVtvJgWU5KDnGSl@agluck-desk3.sc.intel.com>
On Fri, May 06 2022 at 11:49, Luck, Tony wrote:
> On Fri, May 06, 2022 at 03:30:30PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> 1) How is that supposed to work on a system which has HT enabled in BIOS,
>> but disabled on the kernel command line or via /sys/..../smt/control or
>> when a HT sibling is offlined temporarily?
>>
>> I assume it cannot work, but I can't see anything which handles those
>> cases.
>
> Correct. If HT is disabled in BIOS, then there is no other thread, so
> core tests just use a single thread.
>
> If a logical CPU is "offline" due to Linux actions, then core test will
> fail. In an earlier version we did attempt to detect this before trying
> to run the test. But we didn't find a simple way to determine that a
> core has one thread online, and another offline. Rather than a bunch of
> code to detect an operator error it seemed better to let it run &
> fail.
Fair enough.
> GregKH wasn't a fan of this itty bitty driver cluttering up
> Documentation/x86. He said:
>
> I don't know which is better, it's just that creating a whole new
> documentation file for a single tiny driver feels very odd as it will
> get out of date and is totally removed from the driver itself.
>
> I'd prefer that drivers be self-contained, including the documentation,
> as it is much more obvious what is happening with that. Spreading stuff
> around the tree only causes stuff to get out of sync easier.
Well, I agree to some extent, but the documentation which I want to see
is documentation for admins. I'm not sure whether we want them to search
the code. Those are consumers of Documentation/ AFAICT.
> So the documentation patch was dropped after v3. Last version here:
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/r/20220419163859.2228874-3-tony.luck@intel.com
>
> That doc would need pathnames updated to match the move from a platform
> device to a virtual misc device. But otherwise seems still accurate.
>
> Does that cover what you want from documentation for this driver
> (wherever it gets located in the tree)? Are you looking for more?
It's pretty detailed on the inner workings, but lacks a big fat warning
for the admin vs. the impact, i.e. that it makes the core go out for
lunch for a while, which has consequences on workloads and interrupts
directed at that core. Plus some explanation vs. the HT (SMT=off, soft
offline) case above. Similar to what we have e.g. for buslocks.
Thanks,
tglx
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2022-04-07 19:13 [PATCH v2 00/10] Introduce In Field Scan driver Jithu Joseph
2022-04-07 19:13 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] x86/microcode/intel: expose collect_cpu_info_early() for IFS Jithu Joseph
2022-04-08 8:34 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-21 14:56 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-04-07 19:13 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] Documentation: In-Field Scan Jithu Joseph
2022-04-07 19:13 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add driver for " Jithu Joseph
2022-04-07 19:13 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Load IFS Image Jithu Joseph
2022-04-08 5:02 ` Greg KH
2022-04-08 5:04 ` Greg KH
2022-04-07 19:13 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Check IFS Image sanity Jithu Joseph
2022-04-07 19:13 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Authenticate and copy to secured memory Jithu Joseph
2022-04-07 19:13 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add scan test support Jithu Joseph
2022-04-07 19:13 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add IFS sysfs interface Jithu Joseph
2022-04-08 4:59 ` Greg KH
2022-04-07 19:13 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: add ABI documentation for IFS Jithu Joseph
2022-04-08 5:02 ` Greg KH
2022-04-07 19:13 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] trace: platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add trace point to track Intel IFS operations Jithu Joseph
2022-04-19 16:38 ` [PATCH v3 00/11] Introduce In Field Scan driver Tony Luck
2022-04-19 16:38 ` [PATCH v3 01/11] x86/microcode/intel: Expose collect_cpu_info_early() for IFS Tony Luck
2022-04-19 16:38 ` [PATCH v3 02/11] Documentation: In-Field Scan Tony Luck
2022-04-19 16:48 ` Greg KH
2022-04-19 19:45 ` Dan Williams
2022-04-20 7:48 ` Greg KH
2022-04-19 16:38 ` [PATCH v3 03/11] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Create device for Intel IFS (In Field Scan) Tony Luck
2022-04-19 16:47 ` Greg KH
2022-04-19 18:09 ` Dan Williams
2022-04-19 22:28 ` Dan Williams
2022-04-20 7:49 ` Greg KH
2022-04-20 7:48 ` Greg KH
2022-04-20 15:27 ` Luck, Tony
2022-04-20 17:46 ` Greg KH
2022-04-20 17:57 ` Luck, Tony
2022-04-20 18:04 ` Greg KH
2022-04-20 18:08 ` Luck, Tony
2022-04-20 19:04 ` Greg KH
2022-04-19 16:38 ` [PATCH v3 04/11] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add stub driver for In-Field Scan Tony Luck
2022-04-19 16:38 ` [PATCH v3 05/11] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Read IFS firmware image Tony Luck
2022-04-19 17:14 ` Greg KH
2022-04-19 16:38 ` [PATCH v3 06/11] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Check IFS Image sanity Tony Luck
2022-04-19 17:16 ` Greg KH
2022-04-19 16:38 ` [PATCH v3 07/11] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Authenticate and copy to secured memory Tony Luck
2022-04-19 16:38 ` [PATCH v3 08/11] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add scan test support Tony Luck
2022-04-19 16:38 ` [PATCH v3 09/11] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add IFS sysfs interface Tony Luck
2022-04-19 17:20 ` Greg KH
2022-04-19 17:35 ` Luck, Tony
2022-04-19 17:58 ` Greg KH
2022-04-19 18:15 ` Dan Williams
2022-04-19 18:24 ` Dan Williams
2022-04-19 16:38 ` [PATCH v3 10/11] trace: platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add trace point to track Intel IFS operations Tony Luck
2022-04-20 23:38 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-04-21 4:26 ` Luck, Tony
2022-04-21 12:41 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-04-19 16:38 ` [PATCH v3 11/11] platform/x86/intel/ifs: add ABI documentation for IFS Tony Luck
2022-04-22 20:02 ` [PATCH v4 00/10] Introduce In Field Scan driver Tony Luck
2022-04-22 20:02 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] x86/microcode/intel: Expose collect_cpu_info_early() for IFS Tony Luck
2022-04-22 20:02 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] x86/msr-index: Define INTEGRITY_CAPABILITIES MSR Tony Luck
2022-04-22 20:02 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add stub driver for In-Field Scan Tony Luck
2022-04-22 20:02 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Read IFS firmware image Tony Luck
2022-04-26 10:45 ` Greg KH
2022-04-26 16:12 ` Luck, Tony
2022-04-26 16:36 ` Greg KH
2022-04-26 18:47 ` Luck, Tony
2022-04-22 20:02 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Check IFS Image sanity Tony Luck
2022-04-22 20:02 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Authenticate and copy to secured memory Tony Luck
2022-04-22 20:02 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add scan test support Tony Luck
2022-04-22 20:02 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add IFS sysfs interface Tony Luck
2022-04-22 20:02 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] trace: platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add trace point to track Intel IFS operations Tony Luck
2022-04-25 14:52 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-04-25 16:49 ` Luck, Tony
2022-04-26 1:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-04-26 23:53 ` Luck, Tony
2022-04-27 2:42 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-04-22 20:02 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: add ABI documentation for IFS Tony Luck
2022-04-28 15:38 ` [PATCH v5 00/10] Introduce In Field Scan driver Tony Luck
2022-04-28 15:38 ` [PATCH v5 01/10] x86/microcode/intel: Expose collect_cpu_info_early() for IFS Tony Luck
2022-05-03 15:29 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-05-04 10:28 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-04-28 15:38 ` [PATCH v5 02/10] x86/msr-index: Define INTEGRITY_CAPABILITIES MSR Tony Luck
2022-04-28 15:38 ` [PATCH v5 03/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add stub driver for In-Field Scan Tony Luck
2022-05-04 10:35 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-04 16:24 ` Luck, Tony
2022-05-04 16:28 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-28 15:38 ` [PATCH v5 04/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Read IFS firmware image Tony Luck
2022-05-04 10:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-04 16:49 ` Luck, Tony
2022-04-28 15:38 ` [PATCH v5 05/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Check IFS Image sanity Tony Luck
2022-04-28 15:38 ` [PATCH v5 06/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Authenticate and copy to secured memory Tony Luck
2022-05-04 10:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-04-28 15:38 ` [PATCH v5 07/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add scan test support Tony Luck
2022-05-04 12:29 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-04 18:52 ` Luck, Tony
2022-05-04 23:15 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-05 8:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-05-05 9:01 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-05 18:32 ` Luck, Tony
2022-05-05 20:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-28 15:38 ` [PATCH v5 08/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add IFS sysfs interface Tony Luck
2022-04-28 15:38 ` [PATCH v5 09/10] trace: platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add trace point to track Intel IFS operations Tony Luck
2022-04-28 15:38 ` [PATCH v5 10/10] platform/x86/intel/ifs: add ABI documentation for IFS Tony Luck
2022-04-28 15:58 ` [PATCH v5 00/10] Introduce In Field Scan driver Greg KH
2022-04-28 16:07 ` Luck, Tony
2022-05-02 15:15 ` Hans de Goede
2022-05-02 17:23 ` Luck, Tony
2022-05-03 15:32 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-05-03 16:04 ` Luck, Tony
2022-05-03 16:26 ` Luck, Tony
2022-05-06 14:19 ` Hans de Goede
2022-05-06 15:53 ` Luck, Tony
2022-05-06 18:41 ` Hans de Goede
2022-05-09 17:05 ` Luck, Tony
2022-05-09 18:12 ` Hans de Goede
2022-05-06 1:40 ` [PATCH v6 00/11] " Tony Luck
2022-05-06 1:40 ` [PATCH v6 01/11] x86/microcode/intel: Expose collect_cpu_info_early() for IFS Tony Luck
2022-05-06 1:40 ` [PATCH v6 02/11] x86/msr-index: Define INTEGRITY_CAPABILITIES MSR Tony Luck
2022-05-06 8:19 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-06 1:40 ` [PATCH v6 03/11] stop_machine: Add stop_core_cpuslocked() for per-core operations Tony Luck
2022-05-06 8:20 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-06 1:40 ` [PATCH v6 04/11] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add stub driver for In-Field Scan Tony Luck
2022-05-06 8:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-06 1:40 ` [PATCH v6 05/11] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Read IFS firmware image Tony Luck
2022-05-06 1:40 ` [PATCH v6 06/11] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Check IFS Image sanity Tony Luck
2022-05-06 1:40 ` [PATCH v6 07/11] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Authenticate and copy to secured memory Tony Luck
2022-05-06 1:40 ` [PATCH v6 08/11] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add scan test support Tony Luck
2022-05-06 13:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-06 18:49 ` Luck, Tony
2022-05-06 19:06 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2022-05-06 1:40 ` [PATCH v6 09/11] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add IFS sysfs interface Tony Luck
2022-05-06 1:40 ` [PATCH v6 10/11] trace: platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add trace point to track Intel IFS operations Tony Luck
2022-05-06 1:40 ` [PATCH v6 11/11] platform/x86/intel/ifs: add ABI documentation for IFS Tony Luck
2022-05-06 22:53 ` [PATCH v7 00/12] Introduce In Field Scan driver Tony Luck
2022-05-06 22:53 ` [PATCH v7 01/12] x86/microcode/intel: Expose collect_cpu_info_early() for IFS Tony Luck
2022-05-06 22:54 ` [PATCH v7 02/12] x86/msr-index: Define INTEGRITY_CAPABILITIES MSR Tony Luck
2022-05-06 22:54 ` [PATCH v7 03/12] stop_machine: Add stop_core_cpuslocked() for per-core operations Tony Luck
2022-05-06 22:54 ` [PATCH v7 04/12] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add stub driver for In-Field Scan Tony Luck
2022-05-06 22:54 ` [PATCH v7 05/12] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Read IFS firmware image Tony Luck
2022-05-09 12:11 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-06 22:54 ` [PATCH v7 06/12] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Check IFS Image sanity Tony Luck
2022-05-09 12:11 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-09 16:31 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-05-09 16:51 ` Luck, Tony
2022-05-09 16:56 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-05-06 22:54 ` [PATCH v7 07/12] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Authenticate and copy to secured memory Tony Luck
2022-05-09 12:11 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-06 22:54 ` [PATCH v7 08/12] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add scan test support Tony Luck
2022-05-09 12:11 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-06 22:54 ` [PATCH v7 09/12] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add IFS sysfs interface Tony Luck
2022-05-09 12:12 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-06 22:54 ` [PATCH v7 10/12] trace: platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add trace point to track Intel IFS operations Tony Luck
2022-05-06 22:54 ` [PATCH v7 11/12] platform/x86/intel/ifs: add ABI documentation for IFS Tony Luck
2022-05-06 22:54 ` [PATCH v7 12/12] Documentation: In-Field Scan Tony Luck
2022-05-09 12:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-11 15:51 ` [PATCH v7 00/12] Introduce In Field Scan driver Hans de Goede
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