From: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
Nikita Kalyazin <kalyazin@amazon.com>
Cc: pbonzini@redhat.com, corbet@lwn.net, tglx@linutronix.de,
mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
x86@kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com, xiaoyao.li@intel.com,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, roypat@amazon.co.uk,
xmarcalx@amazon.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] KVM: x86: async_pf: remove support for KVM_ASYNC_PF_SEND_ALWAYS
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 14:05:15 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87frkcrab8.fsf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z6ucl7U79RuBsYJt@google.com>
Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> writes:
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2024, Nikita Kalyazin wrote:
>> 3a7c8fafd1b42adea229fd204132f6a2fb3cd2d9 ("x86/kvm: Restrict
>> ASYNC_PF to user space") stopped setting KVM_ASYNC_PF_SEND_ALWAYS in
>> Linux guests. While the flag can still be used by legacy guests, the
>> mechanism is best effort so KVM is not obliged to use it.
>
> What's the actual motivation to remove it from KVM? I agreed KVM isn't required
> to honor KVM_ASYNC_PF_SEND_ALWAYS from a guest/host ABI perspective, but that
> doesn't mean that dropping a feature has no impact. E.g. it's entirely possible
> removing this support could negatively affect a workload running on an old kernel.
>
> Looking back at the discussion[*] where Vitaly made this suggestion, I don't see
> anything that justifies dropping this code. It costs KVM practically nothing to
> maintain this code.
>
> [*] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20241118130403.23184-1-kalyazin@amazon.com
>
How old is old? :-)
Linux stopped using KVM_ASYNC_PF_SEND_ALWAYS in v5.8:
commit 3a7c8fafd1b42adea229fd204132f6a2fb3cd2d9
Author: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Date: Fri Apr 24 09:57:56 2020 +0200
x86/kvm: Restrict ASYNC_PF to user space
and I was under the impression other OSes never used KVM asynchronous
page-fault in the first place (not sure about *BSDs though but certainly
not Windows). As Nikita's motivation for the patch was "to avoid the
overhead ... in case of kernel-originated faults" I suggested we start
by simplifyign the code to not care about 'send_user_only' at all.
We can keep the code around, I guess, but with no plans to re-introduce
KVM_ASYNC_PF_SEND_ALWAYS usage to Linux I still believe it would be good
to set a deprecation date.
--
Vitaly
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-17 13:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-27 17:26 [PATCH 0/2] KVM_ASYNC_PF_SEND_ALWAYS Nikita Kalyazin
2024-11-27 17:26 ` [PATCH 1/2] KVM: x86: async_pf: remove support for KVM_ASYNC_PF_SEND_ALWAYS Nikita Kalyazin
2025-02-11 18:53 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-02-17 13:05 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov [this message]
2025-02-18 15:17 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-02-18 17:07 ` Nikita Kalyazin
2024-11-27 17:26 ` [PATCH 2/2] KVM: x86: async_pf: determine x86 user as cpl == 3 Nikita Kalyazin
2025-02-11 19:12 ` Sean Christopherson
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