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From: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
To: Sebastian Fricke <sebastian.fricke@collabora.com>
Cc: bagasdotme@gmail.com, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com, hverkuil-cisco@xs4all.nl,
	mauro.chehab@linux.intel.com, kernel@collabora.com,
	bob.beckett@collabora.com, nicolas.dufresne@collabora.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] docs: media: Debugging guide for the media subsystem
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 07:57:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87serxu8b4.fsf@trenco.lwn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241111095027.m36ef62bltcjbxkc@basti-XPS-13-9310>

Sebastian Fricke <sebastian.fricke@collabora.com> writes:

> Hey Jonathan,
>
> On 08.11.2024 11:12, Sebastian Fricke wrote:
>>Hey Jon,
>>
>>On 07.11.2024 13:40, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
>>>Sebastian Fricke <sebastian.fricke@collabora.com> writes:
>>>
>>>>Provide a guide for developers on how to debug code with a focus on the
>>>>media subsystem. This document aims to provide a rough overview over the
>>>>possibilities and a rational to help choosing the right tool for the
>>>>given circumstances.
>>>>
>>>>Signed-off-by: Sebastian Fricke <sebastian.fricke@collabora.com>
>>>>---
>>>> Documentation/process/debugging/index.rst          |   1 +
>>>> .../debugging/media_specific_debugging_guide.rst   | 178 +++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> 2 files changed, 179 insertions(+)
>>>
>>>Mostly overall comments here
>>>
>>>- much of what's here seems redundant with your other new documents; you
>>> seem to be going over the same list of tools?  Why not just talk about
>>> the ones that are unique to the media subsystem?
>>
>>I choosed the minimum duplication path because of the perspective that I
>>envisioned of the reader.
>>The reader reads that there is a debugging guide for the media
>>subsystem, which to my ears sounds like:
>>"Everything you need to know to get started debugging in this subsystem,
>>with recommendations for useful tools"
>>and not
>>"Some specific media bits that expect you to have read every other
>>debugging documentation and judge yourself which of these tools might be
>>useful for your debugging".
>>
>>I look at that specifically from a perspective that the general
>>debugging guides are probably going to be extended in the future with
>>more general debugging tools which might not be as useful for the media
>>subsystem.
>
> @Jon: Does that sound reasonable to you? Or should I rework the page? I
> think this is especially interesting for the audio debugging guide as
> well, because this determines how subsystem specific guides should be
> formatted.

I would suggest trying to minimize the amount of duplicated material;
more duplication is more work to maintain and inevitably goes out of
sync.  That said, I don't want to send you around in too many circles on
this; and would not try to require such a change.  It's a suggestion;
get the docs to where you're happy with them and we'll be glad to take
them.

Thanks,

jon

  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-11 14:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-07 14:00 [PATCH 0/2] Documentation: Debugging guide Sebastian Fricke
2024-11-07 14:00 ` [PATCH 1/2] docs: Add guides section for debugging Sebastian Fricke
2024-11-07 20:35   ` Jonathan Corbet
2024-11-07 21:23     ` Randy Dunlap
2024-11-08  8:13     ` Sebastian Fricke
2024-11-08 16:40       ` Jonathan Corbet
2024-11-09  0:10         ` Bagas Sanjaya
2024-11-11  9:46         ` Sebastian Fricke
2024-11-07 14:00 ` [PATCH 2/2] docs: media: Debugging guide for the media subsystem Sebastian Fricke
2024-11-07 20:40   ` Jonathan Corbet
2024-11-08 10:12     ` Sebastian Fricke
2024-11-11  9:50       ` Sebastian Fricke
2024-11-11 14:57         ` Jonathan Corbet [this message]
2024-11-07 14:03 ` [PATCH 0/2] Documentation: Debugging guide Sebastian Fricke
2024-11-07 16:45 ` Jonathan Corbet
2024-11-07 17:57   ` Sebastian Fricke
2024-11-08  8:24   ` Sebastian Fricke
2024-11-08  8:58     ` Bagas Sanjaya
2024-11-08 14:45     ` Jonathan Corbet

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