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From: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Nícolas F. R. A. Prado" <nfraprado@collabora.com>,
	"Randy Dunlap" <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	"Shuah Khan" <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/13] Add kernel-doc modules to Documentation/tools
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2026 13:46:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v7h3udlk.fsf@trenco.lwn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260114212030.28129f38@foz.lan>

Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org> writes:

>> We could certainly rename it to something different.
>> But I really dislike having language extensions on files meant to be
>> executed as commands; you shouldn't care what language it's written in
>> when you run it.
>
> I don't like it either, but Python is really picky on some things.
>
> The problem here is that this is a Python policy violation. To change
> that, one needs to write a PEP and convince Python maintainers to merge
> it, together with changes on python "import" directive.

...or just ignore it.  There is a reason that "pip" is called "pip"
rather than "pip.py" - the Python folks don't keep those extensions on
commands either.

> Alternatively, assuming that some magic words would be enough to
> convince importlib to load a name without ".py" and with "-", it could be
> easier to convince Sphinx autodoc maintainers to take a patch, as they're 
> probably using importlib somewhere to dynamically import a file based 
> at the string inside "automodule" directive. On a quick grep,
> this seems to be the case, and such logic is inside:
>
> 	sphinx/ext/autodoc/importer.py

No doubt we could do that.  But is it really worth the trouble?  There
is not much in kernel-doc that needs documenting, especially since you
did the work to move the actual functionality into separate modules. 

> So, even if we don't actually add kernel-doc docstrings and
> functions via autodoc, I think it is still worth having a
> name convention that would allow that.

Instead, I think you're trying to take a functionality meant to describe
APIs and use it to document command-line stuff.  I'm happy to live by
the import rules for stuff that is actually imported; I think it makes
less sense to let them drive the naming of files that are outside of
their intended scope.

jon

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-14 20:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-14 13:17 [PATCH 00/13] Add kernel-doc modules to Documentation/tools Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-14 13:17 ` [PATCH 01/13] docs: custom.css: prevent li marker to override text Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-14 13:17 ` [PATCH 02/13] docs: enable Sphinx autodoc extension to allow documenting python Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-15 10:19   ` Jani Nikula
2026-01-15 11:50     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-15 12:18       ` Jani Nikula
2026-01-15 12:57         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-14 13:17 ` [PATCH 03/13] docs: custom.css: add CSS for python Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-14 13:17 ` [PATCH 04/13] docs: kdoc: latex_fonts: Improve docstrings and comments Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-14 13:17 ` [PATCH 05/13] docs: kdoc_files: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-14 13:17 ` [PATCH 06/13] docs: kdoc_item: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-14 13:17 ` [PATCH 07/13] docs: kdoc_parser: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-14 13:17 ` [PATCH 08/13] docs: kdoc_output: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-14 13:17 ` [PATCH 09/13] docs: kdoc_re: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-14 13:17 ` [PATCH 10/13] docs: kdoc: parse_data_structs: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-14 13:17 ` [PATCH 11/13] docs: kdoc: enrich_formatter: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-14 13:17 ` [PATCH 12/13] docs: kdoc: python_version: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-14 13:17 ` [PATCH 13/13] docs: add kernel-doc modules documentation Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-14 18:01 ` [PATCH 00/13] Add kernel-doc modules to Documentation/tools Jonathan Corbet
2026-01-14 20:20   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-14 20:46     ` Jonathan Corbet [this message]
2026-01-15  1:29       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-15 10:17         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab

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