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From: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
To: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>, greg@kroah.com
Cc: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>,
	skhan@linuxfoundation.org, security@kernel.org,
	workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] Documentation: security-bugs: explain what is and is not a security bug
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 11:20:51 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wlx8o87g.fsf@trenco.lwn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260509094755.2838-3-w@1wt.eu>

Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu> writes:

> The use of automated tools to find bugs in random locations of the kernel
> induces a raise of security reports even if most of them should just be
> reported as regular bugs. This patch is an attempt at drawing a line
> between what qualifies as a security bug and what does not, hoping to
> improve the situation and ease decision on the reporter's side.
>
> It defers the enumeration to a new file, threat-model.rst, that tries
> to enumerate various classes of issues that are and are not security
> bugs. This should permit to more easily update this file for various
> subsystem-specific rules without having to revisit the security bug
> reporting guide.

One thing here:

[...]

> +* **Capability-based protection**:
> +
> +  * users not having the ``CAP_SYS_ADMIN`` capability may not alter the
> +    kernel's configuration, memory nor state, change other users' view of the
> +    file system layout, grant any user capabilities they do not have, nor
> +    affect the system's availability (shutdown, reboot, panic, hang, or making
> +    the system unresponsive via unbounded resource exhaustion).

That is pretty demonstrably not true, and will likely elicit challenges
at some point.  There are a lot of "make me root" capabilities that
enable users to do all of those things; consider CAP_DAC_OVERRIDE as an
obvious example.  I think that just about all of the capabilities will
enable at least one of those things - that's why the capabilities exist
in the first place.  So I think this needs to be written far more
generally.

As a lower-priority thing, lockdown mode is meant to at least try to
provide some stronger guarantees, and lockdown circumvention seems to be
normally be viewed as a security bug.  Worth a mention?

Thanks,

jon

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-05-12 17:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-09  9:47 [PATCH v3 0/3] Documentation: security-bugs: new updates covering triage and AI Willy Tarreau
2026-05-09  9:47 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] Documentation: security-bugs: do not systematically Cc the security team Willy Tarreau
2026-05-09  9:47 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] Documentation: security-bugs: explain what is and is not a security bug Willy Tarreau
2026-05-09 19:51   ` Shuah Khan
2026-05-11 17:28   ` Greg KH
2026-05-11 18:03     ` Willy Tarreau
2026-05-11 18:39       ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-05-11 20:26         ` Willy Tarreau
2026-05-11 20:42           ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-05-12  5:46             ` Greg KH
2026-05-12  5:54               ` Willy Tarreau
2026-05-12 17:20   ` Jonathan Corbet [this message]
2026-05-09  9:47 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] Documentation: security-bugs: clarify requirements for AI-assisted reports Willy Tarreau
2026-05-12 17:21   ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-05-09 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] Documentation: security-bugs: new updates covering triage and AI Leon Romanovsky
2026-05-09 10:56   ` Willy Tarreau
2026-05-12 17:14 ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-05-12 19:13   ` Willy Tarreau

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