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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Steven Noonan <steven@uplinklabs.net>
Cc: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"maintainer:X86 ARCHITECTURE (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)"
	<x86@kernel.org>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Guilherme G. Piccoli" <gpiccoli@igalia.com>,
	kernel@collabora.com
Subject: Re: Direct rdtsc call side-effect
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2023 22:13:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y1l3c55i.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871qivdjui.ffs@tglx>

On Thu, Jun 01 2023 at 22:10, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>
> So back to the options:
>
>    1) Kernel
>
>       If at all then this needs to be disabled by default and enabled by
>       a command line option along with a big fat warning that it might
>       disable TSC for timekeeping and bug reports related to this are
>       going to be ignored.
>
>       Honestly I'm not too interested in this. It's yet another piece of
>       art which needs to be maintained and kept alive for a long time.
>
>       The fact that we need to check for synchronized TSCs in the first
>       place is hillarious already. TSC_ADJUST makes the resynchronization
>       attempt at least halfways sensible.
>
>       Without it, it's just a pile of never going to be correct
>       heuristics with a flood of "this fixes it for my machine (and
>       breaks the rest)" patches.
>
>
>    2) Binary patching
>
>       Unfortunately RDTSC is only a two byte instruction, but there are
>       enough advanced binary patching tools to deal with that.
>
>       It might be a completely crazy idea, but I wouldn't dismiss it
>       before trying.

Duh. Hit send too early

     3) Virtualization

        Obviously not trivial either but definitely workable.

Thanks,

        tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-01 20:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-01  8:45 Direct rdtsc call side-effect Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-06-01  8:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-01  8:58   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-01 10:31   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-01 10:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-01 18:20   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-01 19:07     ` Steven Noonan
2023-06-01 19:31       ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-06-01 20:10       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-01 20:13         ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2023-06-01 20:31       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-01 21:41         ` Steven Noonan
2023-06-02  6:45           ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-05 10:27   ` David Laight
2023-06-05 14:43     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-05 15:54       ` David Laight
2023-06-05 16:32         ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-06-06  8:23           ` David Laight
2023-06-09  0:14             ` H. Peter Anvin

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