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From: Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>
To: Simon Richter <Simon.Richter@hogyros.de>,
	Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org, iwd@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org, Milan Broz <gmazyland@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] crypto: af_alg - Add af_alg_restrict sysctl, defaulting to 1
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2026 11:54:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8c24ad17-8295-47be-a562-44c23538c4cb@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <641f0391-dd4b-4b25-88f5-5298fa6bf823@hogyros.de>


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On 6/28/26 23:11, Simon Richter wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 6/29/26 3:54 AM, Eric Biggers wrote:
> 
>> We could do that if it's what people want.  Just keep in mind that it
>> would be much more complex than the single tristate sysctl.  And in
>> practice the number of people who are knowledgeable enough to create
>> these lists is quite small; we've seen similar things with other "Crypto
>> API" configuration knobs that seem to never be touched in practice.
> 
> I don't think finer grained control is necessary.
> 
> The tristate is the best possible interface for the people running 
> precompiled distribution kernels. Ideally, deactivating the restriction 
> should also be disallowed in lockdown mode -- and this becomes a lot 
> easier to subvert if the list of algorithms is runtime configurable.
> 
> I think it is safe to assume that the people using AF_ALG with hardware 
> crypto engines are building embedded systems with a custom kernel 
> configuration, so the .config is probably the best place for the 
> selection of algorithms that should remain available in restricted mode.
> 
>     Simon

I agree.

That said, if the crypto_rng support is to remain, should it have a
non-empty allowlist for privileged processes?  Otherwise, it's dead code
with the default sysctl value.
-- 
Sincerely,
Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers)

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-30 15:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-22 23:48 [PATCH] crypto: af_alg - Add af_alg_restrict sysctl, defaulting to 1 Eric Biggers
2026-06-23  8:42 ` Bastien Nocera
2026-06-23 16:54   ` Eric Biggers
2026-06-23 15:04 ` Luiz Augusto von Dentz
2026-06-23 16:52   ` Eric Biggers
2026-06-23 17:29     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-06-23 17:45       ` Eric Biggers
2026-06-23 18:05     ` Eric Biggers
2026-06-23 18:51       ` Luiz Augusto von Dentz
2026-06-23 17:24 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-06-23 17:58   ` Eric Biggers
2026-06-23 19:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-23 19:27   ` Eric Biggers
2026-06-24  2:09     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-06-28 18:54       ` Eric Biggers
2026-06-29  3:11         ` Simon Richter
2026-06-30 15:54           ` Demi Marie Obenour [this message]
2026-07-01  2:53             ` Simon Richter
2026-07-01  3:04               ` Eric Biggers
2026-06-23 19:24 ` Kees Cook
2026-06-23 19:49   ` Eric Biggers
2026-06-23 21:28 ` Rosen Penev
2026-06-23 21:47   ` Eric Biggers
2026-06-23 22:06     ` Rosen Penev

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