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From: "Moger, Babu" <bmoger@amd.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
	babu.moger@amd.com, Peter Newman <peternewman@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 00/27] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2025 16:21:57 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9551d350-a665-462a-9f5a-d8666ae73249@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0081a33a-2f92-47db-af45-afe3c820950c@intel.com>

Hi Reinette,

On 6/11/2025 1:29 PM, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> Hi Babu,
> 
> On 6/10/25 4:19 PM, Moger, Babu wrote:
>> Hi Reinette,
>>
>> On 5/22/2025 11:33 AM, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>>> Hi Babu,
>>>
>>> On 5/22/25 8:44 AM, Moger, Babu wrote:
>>>> On 5/21/25 18:03, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>>>> This is why I proposed in [3] that the name of the mode reflects how user can interact
>>>>> with the system. Instead of one "mbm_cntr_assign" mode there can be "mbm_cntr_event_assign"
>>>>> that is used for ABMC and "mbm_cntr_group_assign" that is used for soft-ABMC. The mode should
>>>>> make it clear what the system is capable of wrt counter assignments.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, that makes sense. Perhaps we can also simplify it further:
>>>>
>>>> # cat /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/mbm_assign_mode:
>>>> [mbm_cntr_evt_assign] <- for ABMC
>>>>    mbm_cntr_grp_assign  <- for soft-ABMC
>>>
>>> Looks good to me. Thank you.
>>
>> I am actually ready with v14 series. I have good feeling that we are getting closer to making these changes final.
>>
>> So, Looking back again, it might make more sense to rename few user visible interfaces.
>>
>> 1. # cat /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/mbm_assign_mode.
>>     [mbm_assign_event] <- for ABMC
>>      mbm_assign_group  <- for soft-ABMC
>>
>>     This looks much more cleaner.  It matches with "mbm_assign_mode"
> 
> ah, I see, by dropping "cntr" it reduces confusion where ABMC assigns counters
> and soft-ABMC assigned RMID. This looks good.
> 
> Taking this further, the "assign" term in "mbm_assign_event" and "mbm_assign_group" may also
> be redundant considering that the filename, "mbm_assign_mode", already has "assign" in its name.

ok. Sure. It will be

# cat /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/mbm_assign_mode.
   [mbm_event] <- for ABMC
    mbm_group  <- for soft-ABMC


> 
>>
>> Similarly, we can rename few functions and variable names to make little more readable.
>>
>> 2. mbm_cntr_assignable -> mbm_assignable
>>
> 
> I have no insight into how the soft-ABMC implementation will look and thus if it will
> build on this property. If soft-ABMC uses the property then making it more generic may
> help, but if it does not then it may make the code harder to read. Since this is all
> internal I'd vote for keeping it mbm_cntr_assignable since the current implementation
> directly associates it with hardware counters. I do not know if there will be a scenario
> where a system may support *both* event and group assignable counters. The idea did
> briefly come up[1]. If that may be possible then resctrl would need to distinguish them.
> Also, interesting to note that the example used in (1) above notes a system that
> supports both event and group assignment.

Ok. That is fine. Lets keep it as is then.

> 
>> 3. resctrl_arch_mbm_cntr_assign_enabled
>>   -> >resctrl_arch_mbm_assign_enabled
>>
> 
> This is directly connected to choice for (2)

Ok.

> 
>> 4. mbm_cntr_assign_enabled -> mbm_assign_enabled
> 
> hmmm ... here mbm_cntr_assign_enabled is even more directly associated with hardware
> support for counter assignment. It is not clear what the benefit is to make it generic.

Ok.

> 
>>
>> 5. resctrl_arch_mbm_cntr_assign_set_one ->
>>
>>     resctrl_arch_mbm_assign_set_one.
> 
> Same as (4)
> 
>>
>> 6. There will few more functions. I will look into that if you agree with approach.
>>
>> 7. No need to change few of these below. These are related to actual counters.
>>     num_mbm_cntrs
>>     available_mbm_cntrs
>>
>> What do you think?
> 
> It sounds to me as though you are aiming to make the ABMC implementation more
> generic in preparation for soft-ABMC support. If you have insight into the soft-ABMC
> implementation then please share the details for this to be taken into account.
> Until then I think it will be simpler for the implementation to be specific to
> the feature being enabled here. When soft-ABMC enabling arrives the needed changes
> can be made. Since this is about internals of resctrl (not the user interface) we
> are not as pressured to "get it right" while not having all information required
> to make these choices.

Ok. Sure. That is fine. Lets keep the internals to implementation 
specific for now.

Thanks
Babu

> 
> Reinette
>   
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CALPaoCj438UfH3QA_VnGo-pj2a_48sJufUWjBKT3MQatcMJ_Uw@mail.gmail.com/
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-11 21:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-15 22:51 [PATCH v13 00/27] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Babu Moger
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 01/27] x86/cpufeatures: Add support for " Babu Moger
2025-05-22 20:51   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-27 17:23     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-27 17:54       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-27 18:40         ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-27 23:42           ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-28 16:18             ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 02/27] x86/resctrl: Add ABMC feature in the command line options Babu Moger
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 03/27] x86/resctrl: Consolidate monitoring related data from rdt_resource Babu Moger
2025-05-22 20:52   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-27 18:49     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 04/27] x86/resctrl: Detect Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring feature details Babu Moger
2025-05-22 20:54   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-27 19:52     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-27 20:15     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 05/27] x86/resctrl: Add support to enable/disable AMD ABMC feature Babu Moger
2025-05-22 20:56   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-27 20:21     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 06/27] x86/resctrl: Introduce the interface to display monitor mode Babu Moger
2025-05-22 20:56   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-27 20:33     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 07/27] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to display number of monitoring counters Babu Moger
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 08/27] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_cntr_cfg to track assignable counters at domain Babu Moger
2025-05-22 21:02   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-28 16:56     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-28 17:34       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-28 19:05         ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 09/27] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to display number of free MBM counters Babu Moger
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 10/27] x86/resctrl: Add data structures and definitions for ABMC assignment Babu Moger
2025-05-22 21:10   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-28 19:15     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 11/27] x86/resctrl: Implement resctrl_arch_config_cntr() to assign a counter with ABMC Babu Moger
2025-05-22 21:51   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-22 22:16     ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-23 21:08       ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-26 13:14         ` Peter Newman
2025-05-27 21:41           ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-28 21:41             ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-28 22:00               ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-28 22:13                 ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-28 23:48                   ` Moger, Babu
2025-06-09 14:01               ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-28 21:39     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 12/27] x86/resctrl: Introduce event configuration modes Babu Moger
2025-05-22 22:05   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-29 15:21     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 13/27] x86/resctrl: Add the functionality to assign MBM events Babu Moger
2025-05-22 22:41   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-29 16:05     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH v13 14/27] x86/resctrl: Add the functionality to unassign " Babu Moger
2025-05-22 22:49   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-29 16:25     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 15/27] x86/resctrl: Report 'Unassigned' for MBM events in mbm_cntr_assign mode Babu Moger
2025-05-22 23:01   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-29 16:58     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 16/27] x86/resctrl: Pass entire struct rdtgroup rather than passing individual members Babu Moger
2025-05-22 23:05   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-29 18:07     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 17/27] x86/resctrl: Add the support for reading ABMC counters Babu Moger
2025-05-22 23:31   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-29 18:25     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 18/27] x86/resctrl: Add definitions for MBM event configuration Babu Moger
2025-05-23  4:41   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-29 19:00     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-29 20:58       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-03 13:41         ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 19/27] x86/resctrl: Add event configuration directory under info/L3_MON/ Babu Moger
2025-05-23  4:43   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-29 19:54     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 20/27] x86/resctrl: Provide interface to update the event configurations Babu Moger
2025-05-23  4:45   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-29 22:35     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 21/27] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_assign_on_mkdir to configure assignments Babu Moger
2025-05-23  4:48   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-29 23:03     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-30 20:54       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-03 14:00         ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 22/27] x86/resctrl: Auto assign/unassign counters when mbm_cntr_assign is enabled Babu Moger
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 23/27] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_L3_assignments to list assignments in a group Babu Moger
2025-05-23  4:47   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-30  0:55     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 24/27] x86/resctrl: Introduce the interface to modify " Babu Moger
2025-05-26  9:48   ` Peter Newman
2025-05-27 15:24     ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 25/27] x86/resctrl: Hide the BMEC related files when mbm_cnt_assign is enabled Babu Moger
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 26/27] x86/resctrl: Introduce the interface to switch between monitor modes Babu Moger
2025-05-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v13 27/27] x86/resctrl: Configure mbm_cntr_assign mode if supported Babu Moger
2025-05-19 15:59 ` [PATCH v13 00/27] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Peter Newman
2025-05-20 15:28   ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-20 16:06     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-20 17:51       ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-20 18:23         ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-20 23:25           ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-20 23:44             ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-21  9:18               ` Peter Newman
2025-05-21 23:03                 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-21 23:43                   ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-22  0:10                     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-22  0:21                       ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-22  8:47                         ` Peter Newman
2025-05-22 16:32                           ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-22 17:21                           ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-22 15:44                   ` Moger, Babu
2025-05-22 16:33                     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-22 19:15                       ` Moger, Babu
2025-06-10 23:19                       ` Moger, Babu
2025-06-11 18:29                         ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-11 21:21                           ` Moger, Babu [this message]
2025-05-21 14:27               ` Peter Newman
2025-05-21 23:05                 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-22  9:14                   ` Peter Newman
2025-05-22 16:33                     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-22 20:44 ` Reinette Chatre

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