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> > On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 01:46:47PM -0400, Sasha Levin wrote: > > > > > Similarily the argument around not trusting the code is equivalent to > > > not trusting the person who sent the code in. AI doesn't send patches on > > > it's own - humans do. This is basically saying "I didn't even look at > > > your patch because I don't trust you". > > > > One name: Markus Elfring. Ever tried to reason with that one? Or Hillf > > Danton, for that matter. > > > > And I absolutely will refuse to take patches from somebody who would > > consistently fail to explain why the patch is correct and needed. Sasha, > > this is the elephant in the room: we *ALREADY* get "contributions" that > > very clearly stem from "$TOOL says so, what else do you need?" kind of > > reasoning and some of that dreck ends up in the tree. AI will serve as > > a force multiplier for those... persons. > > This is exactly my argument Al :) > > You, as a maintainer, should be able to just reject patches without > having to provide a technical explanation for each patch you ignore. > > If someone new comes along and bombards you with AI generated crap and > useless review comments, you should be able to just block him and point > to something under Documentation/ that will support that decision. I'm in alignment with Al and your view here FWIW! Though I do think Steven has a point in that there must be a _good reason_ that aligns with the community for doing so, and it shouldn't be arbitrary. LLMs do throw up an interesting new conundrum here in that they sort of fall between two posts on this so we probably need to be explicit in saying that it is up to maintainers in this AI doc in my view. Cheers, Lorenzo