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From: Daniel Zahka <daniel.zahka@gmail.com>
To: Saeed Mahameed <saeed@kernel.org>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 2/2] net/mlx5: implement swp_l4_csum_mode via devlink params
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2025 10:19:51 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9fed6ab9-e748-4a78-b45b-5e6b3cc58006@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aRKs6jXqSvC3G_R0@x130>



On 11/10/25 10:26 PM, Saeed Mahameed wrote:
> On 10 Nov 15:46, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
>> On Sun, 9 Nov 2025 11:46:37 +0100 Jiri Pirko wrote:
>>> >So, I checked a couple of flows internally, and it seems this allows
>>> >some flexibility in the FW to decide later on which mode to pick,
>>> >based on other parameters, which practically means
>>> >"user has no preference on this param". Driver can only find out
>>> >after boot, when it reads the runtime capabilities, but still
>>> >this is a bug, by the time the driver reads this (in devlink), the
>>> >default value should've already been determined by FW, so FW must
>>> >return the actual runtime value. Which can only be one of the 
>>> following
>>>
>>> I don't think it is correct to expose the "default" as a value.
>>>
>>> On read, user should see the configured value, either "full_csum" or
>>> "l4_only". Reporting "default" to the user does not make any sense.
>>> On write, user should pass either "full_csum" or "l4_only". Why we 
>>> would
>>> ever want to pass "default"?
>>
>> FWIW I agree that this feels a bit odd. Should the default be a flag
>> attr? On get flag being present means the value is the FW default (no
>> override present). On set passing the flag means user wants to reset
>> to FW default (remove override)?
>>
>>> Regardless this patch, since this is param to be reflected on fw reboot
>>> (permanent cmode), I think it would be nice to expose indication if
>>> param value passed to user currently affects the fw, or if it is going
>>> to be applied after fw reboot. Perhaps a simple bool attr would do?
>>
>> IIUC we're basically talking about user having no information that
>> the update is pending? Could this be done by the core? Core can do
>> a ->get prior to calling ->set and if the ->set succeeds and
>> cmode != runtime record that the update is pending?
>>
>
> Could work if on GET driver reads 'current' value from FW, then it should
> be simpler if GET != SET then 'pending', one problem though is if SET was
> done by external tool or value wasn't applied after reboot, then we loose
> that information, but do we care? I think we shouldn't.
>
>> That feels very separate from the series tho, there are 3 permanent
>> params in mlx5, already. Is there something that makes this one special?
>
> In mlx5 they all have the same behavior, devlink sets 'next' value, 
> devlink reads 'next' value. The only special thing about the new param
> is that it has a 'device_default' value and when you read that from 
> 'next' it will always show 'device_default' as the actual value is only
> known at run time ,e.g. 'next boot'.
>
> I think the only valid solution for permanent and drv_init params is to
> have 'next' and 'current' values reported by driver on read. Or maybe 
> go just with  'set' != 'get' then 'pending' as discussed above ?
>

The driver reporting 'current' and 'next' makes the most sense to me. 
'pending' would just be implied then. The 'set' != 'get' then 'pending' 
approach would not work on my multi host CX7 system, where rebooting the 
hosts individually does not trigger a fw reset.

To be clear, are we willing to go forward with treating swp_l4_csum_mode 
like other permanent params in nv_param.c in this series, and then defer 
the 'pending' solution to another series?


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-11-11 15:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-07 20:43 [PATCH net-next v3 0/2] devlink: net/mlx5: implement swp_l4_csum_mode via devlink params Daniel Zahka
2025-11-07 20:43 ` [PATCH net-next v3 1/2] devlink: pass extack through to devlink_param::get() Daniel Zahka
2025-11-08  6:29   ` Saeed Mahameed
2025-11-07 20:43 ` [PATCH net-next v3 2/2] net/mlx5: implement swp_l4_csum_mode via devlink params Daniel Zahka
2025-11-08  6:14   ` Saeed Mahameed
2025-11-09 10:46     ` Jiri Pirko
2025-11-10 19:09       ` Daniel Zahka
2025-11-10 23:46       ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-11  3:26         ` Saeed Mahameed
2025-11-11 14:39           ` Jiri Pirko
2025-11-11 15:48             ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-12 12:55               ` Jiri Pirko
2025-11-11 15:19           ` Daniel Zahka [this message]
2025-11-10 23:01     ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-11  3:34       ` Saeed Mahameed
2025-11-11 15:34         ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-09 10:39   ` Jiri Pirko
2025-11-10 13:05     ` Daniel Zahka
2025-11-10 22:58       ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-11 14:40         ` Jiri Pirko

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