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From: tarunsahu@google.com
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: ackerleytng@google.com, fuad.tabba@linux.dev,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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	 suzuki.poulose@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 04/11] KVM: Track weak reference to vm_file in struct kvm
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2026 16:29:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9huzik57v1c3.fsf@tarunix.c.googlers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <anpdYD1UaO0ffQgi@google.com>

Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> writes:

> On Tue, Jul 28, 2026, Tarun Sahu wrote:
>> - Add a weak reference 'vm_file' in struct kvm under
>
> "vm_file" is effectively already claimed by vm_area_struct.vm_file.  *If* we go
> this route, I would very strongly prefer to take a dependency on "vfio: Use
> file-based reference counting for KVM"[*].  I'll poke that thread, we really
> should land that one particular patch long before the s390-is-arm64
> insanity.

[*] Seem interesting way to solve this. So we will also have vm_file
directly in guest_memfd instead of struct kvm and refcounting on vm_file
instead struct kvm?

struct gmem_file {
-	struct kvm *kvm;
+	struct file *vm_file;
	struct xarray bindings;
	struct list_head entry;
};

>
> Empashish on "if" because this all feels backwards.

> It's not at all clear to
> me why liveupdate goes directly to guest_memfd, but then requires a token associated
> with the VM.

guest_memfd can be recreated without having the struct kvm, Which there
is no way to pass it on retrieval path. So the function
kvm_gmem_luo_retrieve() gets this VM token, find the vm_file (hence
struct kvm) associated with the preserved guest_memfd. Now it create a
fresh guest_memfd by calling kvm_gmem_create(..., kvm). And populate
preserved flags and folios to this guest_memfd.

>
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260731130902.654679-2-seiden@linux.ibm.com

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-18 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-28 12:11 [PATCH v4 00/11] liveupdate: kvm: Guest_memfd preservation Tarun Sahu
2026-07-28 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 01/11] liveupdate: Add LIVEUPDATE_GUEST_MEMFD config option Tarun Sahu
2026-08-10 22:58   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-11 13:26     ` tarunsahu
2026-08-11 14:48       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-18 16:11         ` tarunsahu
2026-07-28 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 02/11] KVM: Introduce kvm_create_vm_file() helper Tarun Sahu
2026-07-30 17:36   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-10 10:14     ` tarunsahu
2026-08-10 23:05   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-28 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 03/11] KVM: Export kvm_uevent_notify_vm_create() Tarun Sahu
2026-07-28 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 04/11] KVM: Track weak reference to vm_file in struct kvm Tarun Sahu
2026-08-10 23:23   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-18 16:29     ` tarunsahu [this message]
2026-07-28 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 05/11] KVM: LUO: Support VM preservation across live updates Tarun Sahu
2026-08-10 23:42   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-11 11:31     ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-08-11 14:05       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-12 13:45         ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-08-12 15:17           ` Sean Christopherson
     [not found]             ` <2vxzqzjz1x5f.fsf@kernel.org>
2026-08-17 14:37               ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-18 13:43                 ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-08-18 16:02                   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-18 15:28               ` tarunsahu
2026-08-18 16:10         ` tarunsahu
2026-07-28 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 06/11] KVM: guest_memfd: Move internal definitions to internal header Tarun Sahu
2026-07-30 18:12   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-11 10:31     ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-07-28 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 07/11] KVM: guest_memfd: Add support for freezing mappings Tarun Sahu
2026-07-30 17:46   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-10 13:15     ` tarunsahu
2026-07-30 18:12   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-10 13:08     ` tarunsahu
2026-08-10 23:44   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-18 16:33     ` tarunsahu
2026-07-28 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 08/11] KVM: guest_memfd: Add support for preservation via LUO Tarun Sahu
2026-07-30 18:16   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-10 13:20     ` tarunsahu
2026-07-28 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 09/11] docs: liveupdate: Add documentation for VM and guest_memfd preservation Tarun Sahu
2026-07-28 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 10/11] KVM: selftests: Split ____vm_create() and add vm_create_from_fd() Tarun Sahu
2026-07-28 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 11/11] KVM: selftests: Add guest_memfd_preservation_test Tarun Sahu
2026-07-30 18:18   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-10 13:22     ` tarunsahu
2026-08-18 16:35       ` tarunsahu
2026-08-11 10:06     ` Pratyush Yadav

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