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From: Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu@tomeuvizoso.net>
To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Cc: "Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Heiko Stuebner" <heiko@sntech.de>,
	"Oded Gabbay" <ogabbay@kernel.org>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	"Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Sebastian Reichel" <sebastian.reichel@collabora.com>,
	"Nicolas Frattaroli" <nicolas.frattaroli@collabora.com>,
	"Jeff Hugo" <jeff.hugo@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org,
	"Kever Yang" <kever.yang@rock-chips.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 01/10] dt-bindings: npu: rockchip,rknn: Add bindings
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2025 09:11:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAObsKCZiBmy2kBm76V0cWfsLBbHnKzG4CS-bRUBc25k22K20A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAObsKDE33kZ27XbgeWBqQzrZXDHwHzp2Q6A7y_osC50UG-n7g@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 5:34 PM Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu@tomeuvizoso.net> wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 3:41 PM Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 5:27 AM Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu@tomeuvizoso.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Add the bindings for the Neural Processing Unit IP from Rockchip.
> > >
> > > v2:
> > > - Adapt to new node structure (one node per core, each with its own
> > >   IOMMU)
> > > - Several misc. fixes from Sebastian Reichel
> > >
> > > v3:
> > > - Split register block in its constituent subblocks, and only require
> > >   the ones that the kernel would ever use (Nicolas Frattaroli)
> > > - Group supplies (Rob Herring)
> > > - Explain the way in which the top core is special (Rob Herring)
> > >
> > > v4:
> > > - Change required node name to npu@ (Rob Herring and Krzysztof Kozlowski)
> > > - Remove unneeded items: (Krzysztof Kozlowski)
> > > - Fix use of minItems/maxItems (Krzysztof Kozlowski)
> > > - Add reg-names to list of required properties (Krzysztof Kozlowski)
> > > - Fix example (Krzysztof Kozlowski)
> > >
> > > v5:
> > > - Rename file to rockchip,rk3588-rknn-core.yaml (Krzysztof Kozlowski)
> > > - Streamline compatible property (Krzysztof Kozlowski)
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Sebastian Reichel <sebastian.reichel@collabora.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu@tomeuvizoso.net>
> > > ---
> > >  .../bindings/npu/rockchip,rk3588-rknn-core.yaml    | 147 +++++++++++++++++++++
> > >  1 file changed, 147 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/npu/rockchip,rk3588-rknn-core.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/npu/rockchip,rk3588-rknn-core.yaml
> > > new file mode 100644
> > > index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..9eb426367afcbc03c387d43c4b8250cdd1b9ee86
> > > --- /dev/null
> > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/npu/rockchip,rk3588-rknn-core.yaml
> > > @@ -0,0 +1,147 @@
> > > +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0-only OR BSD-2-Clause)
> > > +%YAML 1.2
> > > +---
> > > +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/npu/rockchip,rk3588-rknn-core.yaml#
> > > +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> > > +
> > > +title: Neural Processing Unit IP from Rockchip
> > > +
> > > +maintainers:
> > > +  - Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu@tomeuvizoso.net>
> > > +
> > > +description:
> > > +  Rockchip IP for accelerating inference of neural networks, based on NVIDIA's
> > > +  open source NVDLA IP.
> > > +
> > > +  There is to be a node per each core in the NPU. In Rockchip's design there
> > > +  will be one core that is special and needs to be powered on before any of the
> > > +  other cores can be used. This special core is called the top core and should
> > > +  have the compatible string that corresponds to top cores.
> >
> > Is this really a distinction in the h/w? If you change which core is
> > the top one in the DT, does it still work?
>
> No, I really need to power on that one before the others can work (the
> first core is also marked as special in a diagram in the TRM).
>
> > > +
> > > +properties:
> > > +  $nodename:
> > > +    pattern: '^npu@[a-f0-9]+$'
> > > +
> > > +  compatible:
> > > +    enum:
> > > +      - rockchip,rk3588-rknn-core-top
> > > +      - rockchip,rk3588-rknn-core
> > > +
> > > +  reg:
> > > +    maxItems: 3
> > > +
> > > +  reg-names:
> > > +    items:
> > > +      - const: pc
> > > +      - const: cna
> > > +      - const: core
> > > +
> > > +  clocks:
> > > +    minItems: 2
> > > +    maxItems: 4
> > > +
> > > +  clock-names:
> > > +    items:
> > > +      - const: aclk
> > > +      - const: hclk
> > > +      - const: npu
> > > +      - const: pclk
> > > +    minItems: 2
> >
> > It is odd that the non-top cores only have bus clocks and no module
> > clock. But based on the clock names, I'm guessing the aclk/hclk are
> > not shared, but the npu and pclk are shared. Since you make the top
> > core probe first, then it will enable the shared clocks and the
> > non-top cores don't have to worry about them. If so, that is wrong as
> > it is letting the software design define the bindings.
>
> Yes, I think it's probably as you say, but I don't know how I could
> check. Maybe Kever, Heiko or Sebastian would have any ideas?

So I talked with Kever and Heiko about this, and the npu and pclk
clocks are indeed shared among cores.

Regards,

Tomeu

  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-04  7:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-20 10:26 [PATCH v5 00/10] New DRM accel driver for Rockchip's RKNN NPU Tomeu Vizoso
2025-05-20 10:26 ` [PATCH v5 01/10] dt-bindings: npu: rockchip,rknn: Add bindings Tomeu Vizoso
2025-05-21  7:02   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-05-28 13:41   ` Rob Herring
2025-05-28 15:34     ` Tomeu Vizoso
2025-06-04  7:11       ` Tomeu Vizoso [this message]
2025-06-02  8:15     ` Tomeu Vizoso
2025-06-04  7:13     ` Tomeu Vizoso
2025-05-20 10:26 ` [PATCH v5 02/10] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add nodes for NPU and its MMU to rk3588s Tomeu Vizoso
2025-05-20 10:26 ` [PATCH v5 03/10] arm64: dts: rockchip: Enable the NPU on quartzpro64 Tomeu Vizoso
2025-05-20 10:26 ` [PATCH v5 04/10] accel/rocket: Add registers header Tomeu Vizoso
2025-05-20 10:26 ` [PATCH v5 05/10] accel/rocket: Add a new driver for Rockchip's NPU Tomeu Vizoso
2025-05-30 16:20   ` Jeff Hugo
2025-05-20 10:26 ` [PATCH v5 06/10] accel/rocket: Add IOCTL for BO creation Tomeu Vizoso
2025-05-20 10:27 ` [PATCH v5 07/10] accel/rocket: Add job submission IOCTL Tomeu Vizoso
2025-05-30 16:33   ` Jeff Hugo
2025-06-03 20:17   ` Rob Herring
2025-05-20 10:27 ` [PATCH v5 08/10] accel/rocket: Add IOCTLs for synchronizing memory accesses Tomeu Vizoso
2025-05-20 10:41   ` Lucas Stach
2025-05-30 16:35   ` Jeff Hugo
2025-05-20 10:27 ` [PATCH v5 09/10] arm64: dts: rockchip: add pd_npu label for RK3588 power domains Tomeu Vizoso
2025-05-20 10:27 ` [PATCH v5 10/10] arm64: dts: rockchip: enable NPU on ROCK 5B Tomeu Vizoso

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