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From: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
To: Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>,
	David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Martin Uecker <Martin.Uecker@med.uni-goettingen.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Rikard Falkeborn <rikard.falkeborn@gmail.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>,
	"Gustavo A. R. Silva" <gustavoars@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] linux/const.h: Explain how __is_constexpr() works
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 15:08:01 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKwvOdnWM8kw8TWKOv3uCoqroeqF2kW+TUEavFYOp5W6+ZPgew@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANiq72nep38_aFpUNc5C3Po_AKmuiogqvzc_pJgvixJqy9POwg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 3:01 PM Miguel Ojeda
<miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 11:20 PM David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com> wrote:
> >
> > The type of the result depends on the type of the 2nd and 3rd arguments.
> > Not on the value of the first one.
>
> I am not talking about the first operand. The behavior of the
> conditional operator has a few cases. Since you mentioned promotions,
> it looked like you were thinking about what happens for the arithmetic
> types case, i.e.
>
> """If both the second and third operands have arithmetic type, the
> result type that would be determined by the usual arithmetic
> conversions, were they applied to those two operands, is the type of
> the result."""
>
> which could lead to thinking that the expressions need to have the
> same type as you mentioned, but that is not true, and the arithmetic
> types case is not used in the macro either. The cases used are the
> null pointer constant vs. pointer and the pointer to void vs. pointer
> to object type.
>
> > It has nothing to with the condition, the compiler is trying to 'sort out'
> > a suitable return type.
> >
> > I suspect the mismatched pointer types might even be a gcc extension.
>
> That is why I said it does not fit the constraints of the operator.
> The standard does not describe what happens in such a case.

Since this patch is a rephrasing of
https://stackoverflow.com/a/49481218, I think the relevant citation
from the C standard is below:

```
The key here is that the conditional operator returns a different type
depending on whether one of the operands is a null pointer constant
(6.5.15.6):

[...] if one operand is a null pointer constant, the result has the
type of the other operand; otherwise, one operand is a pointer to void
or a qualified version of void, in which case the result type is a
pointer to an appropriately qualified version of void.

So, if x was an integer constant expression, then the second operand
is a null pointer constant and therefore the type of the expression is
the type of the third operand, which is a pointer to int.
```

-- 
Thanks,
~Nick Desaulniers

  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-02 23:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-31 20:43 [PATCH] linux/const.h: Explain how __is_constexpr() works Kees Cook
2022-01-31 21:26 ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2022-02-01 12:01 ` Jani Nikula
2022-02-01 13:05 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2022-02-01 15:09   ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-02-02  8:49   ` David Laight
2022-02-02 15:43     ` Uecker, Martin
2022-02-02 20:14       ` Miguel Ojeda
2022-02-02 16:19 ` David Laight
2022-02-02 20:13   ` Miguel Ojeda
2022-02-02 22:20     ` David Laight
2022-02-02 23:01       ` Miguel Ojeda
2022-02-02 23:08         ` Nick Desaulniers [this message]
2022-02-02 20:44   ` Rasmus Villemoes
2022-02-02 22:42     ` David Laight
2022-02-03  0:28       ` Miguel Ojeda
2022-02-02 20:43 ` Miguel Ojeda
2022-02-03  9:25   ` David Laight

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