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From: Peter Newman <peternewman@google.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
Cc: "Moger, Babu" <bmoger@amd.com>, Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 00/23] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 11:26:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALPaoCh7WpohzpXhSAbumjSZBv1_+1bXON7_V1pwG4bdEBr52Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a07fca4c-c8fa-41a6-b126-59815b9a58f9@intel.com>

Hi Reinette,

On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 8:18 PM Reinette Chatre
<reinette.chatre@intel.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Babu,
>
> On 2/14/25 10:31 AM, Moger, Babu wrote:
> > On 2/14/2025 12:26 AM, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> >> On 2/13/25 9:37 AM, Dave Martin wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 03:33:31PM -0800, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> >>>> On 2/12/25 9:46 AM, Dave Martin wrote:
> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 02:20:08PM -0600, Babu Moger wrote:
>
> (quoting relevant parts with goal to focus discussion on new possible syntax)
>
> >>>> I see the support for MPAM events distinct from the support of assignable counters.
> >>>> Once the MPAM events are sorted, I think that they can be assigned with existing interface.
> >>>> Please help me understand if you see it differently.
> >>>>
> >>>> Doing so would need to come up with alphabetical letters for these events,
> >>>> which seems to be needed for your proposal also? If we use possible flags of:
> >>>>
> >>>> mbm_local_read_bytes a
> >>>> mbm_local_write_bytes b
> >>>>
> >>>> Then mbm_assign_control can be used as:
> >>>> # echo '//0=ab;1=b' >/sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/mbm_assign_control
> >>>> # cat /sys/fs/resctrl/mon_data/mon_L3_00/mbm_local_read_bytes
> >>>> <value>
> >>>> # cat /sys/fs/resctrl/mon_data/mon_L3_00/mbm_local_bytes
> >>>> <sum of mbm_local_read_bytes and mbm_local_write_bytes>
> >>>>
> >>>> One issue would be when resctrl needs to support more than 26 events (no more flags available),
> >>>> assuming that upper case would be used for "shared" counters (unless this interface is defined
> >>>> differently and only few uppercase letters used for it). Would this be too low of a limit?
>
> As mentioned above, one possible issue with existing interface is that
> it is limited to 26 events (assuming only lower case letters are used). The limit
> is low enough to be of concern.

The events which can be monitored by a single counter on ABMC and MPAM
so far are combinable, so 26 counters per group today means it limits
breaking down MBM traffic for each group 26 ways. If a user complained
that a 26-way breakdown of a group's MBM traffic was limiting their
investigation, I would question whether they know what they're looking
for.

-Peter

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-02-17 10:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 209+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-22 20:20 [PATCH v11 00/23] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 01/23] x86/resctrl: Add __init attribute to functions called from resctrl_late_init() Babu Moger
2025-02-05 22:22   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-19 13:28   ` Dave Martin
2025-02-19 16:53     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-20 13:29       ` Dave Martin
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 02/23] x86/cpufeatures: Add support for Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 03/23] x86/resctrl: Add ABMC feature in the command line options Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 04/23] x86/resctrl: Consolidate monitoring related data from rdt_resource Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 05/23] x86/resctrl: Detect Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring feature details Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 06/23] x86/resctrl: Add support to enable/disable AMD ABMC feature Babu Moger
2025-02-05 22:49   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-06 16:15     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-06 18:42       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-06 22:57         ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-06 23:28           ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-21 18:05   ` James Morse
2025-02-21 18:25     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 07/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce the interface to display monitor mode Babu Moger
2025-02-06 18:01   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-06 23:41     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-21 18:06   ` James Morse
2025-02-21 19:44     ` Moger, Babu
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 08/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to display number of monitoring counters Babu Moger
2025-02-05 23:17   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-07 17:18     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-07 18:52       ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-10 18:08         ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-10 20:26           ` Moger, Babu
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 09/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_total_cfg and mbm_local_cfg in struct rdt_hw_mon_domain Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 10/23] x86/resctrl: Remove MSR reading of event configuration value Babu Moger
2025-02-05 23:58   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-06  0:51     ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-06  1:41       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-06 15:56         ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-21 18:08           ` James Morse
2025-02-19 13:28         ` Dave Martin
2025-02-21 18:08           ` James Morse
2025-02-07 17:30     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-06  6:24   ` Xin Li
2025-02-06 16:17     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-07 10:07       ` Xin Li
2025-02-11 19:44         ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-12  8:33           ` Xin Li
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 11/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_cntr_cfg to track assignable counters at domain Babu Moger
2025-02-05 23:57   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-07 18:23     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-10 18:10       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-19 13:30         ` Dave Martin
2025-02-19 18:07           ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-20 13:33             ` Dave Martin
2025-02-21 18:07   ` James Morse
2025-02-21 18:35     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-21 20:10       ` Moger, Babu
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 12/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to display number of free counters Babu Moger
2025-02-06  0:19   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-07 18:59     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-19 13:31       ` Dave Martin
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 13/23] x86/resctrl: Add data structures and definitions for ABMC assignment Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 14/23] x86/resctrl: Implement resctrl_arch_config_cntr() to assign a counter with ABMC Babu Moger
2025-02-19 13:32   ` Dave Martin
2025-02-19 21:00     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-21 18:06   ` James Morse
2025-02-21 22:24     ` Moger, Babu
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 15/23] x86/resctrl: Add the functionality to assigm MBM events Babu Moger
2025-02-06  1:05   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-07 21:10     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-10 18:25       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 16/23] x86/resctrl: Add the functionality to unassigm " Babu Moger
2025-02-06  3:54   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-10 16:23     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-10 18:30       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-22  0:36         ` Moger, Babu
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 17/23] x86/resctrl: Auto assign/unassign counters when mbm_cntr_assign is enabled Babu Moger
2025-02-06 18:03   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-10 17:27     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-10 18:34       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-19 13:41   ` Dave Martin
2025-02-19 14:09     ` Peter Newman
2025-02-19 17:55       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-20 10:35         ` Peter Newman
2025-02-20 13:40           ` Dave Martin
2025-02-20 17:08             ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-21 17:14               ` Dave Martin
2025-02-21 18:23                 ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-21 22:48                   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-21 23:42                     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-27 11:07                       ` Peter Newman
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 18/23] x86/resctrl: Report "Unassigned" for MBM events in mbm_cntr_assign mode Babu Moger
2025-02-06 18:04   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-10 17:39     ` Moger, Babu
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 19/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce the interface to switch between monitor modes Babu Moger
2025-02-06 18:05   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-10 18:54     ` Moger, Babu
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 20/23] x86/resctrl: Configure mbm_cntr_assign mode if supported Babu Moger
2025-02-21 18:06   ` James Morse
2025-02-24 15:49     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-24 17:01       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-24 21:18         ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-24 22:20           ` Reinette Chatre
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 21/23] x86/resctrl: Update assignments on event configuration changes Babu Moger
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 22/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to list assignment states of all the groups Babu Moger
2025-02-19 13:53   ` Dave Martin
2025-02-19 21:09     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-20 15:44       ` Dave Martin
2025-02-20 21:29         ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-21 16:00           ` Dave Martin
2025-02-21 20:10             ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-24 17:17               ` Dave Martin
2025-02-24 17:23                 ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-28 17:50                   ` Dave Martin
2025-03-03 19:30                     ` Luck, Tony
2025-03-05 18:06                       ` Dave Martin
2025-01-22 20:20 ` [PATCH v11 23/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to modify assignment states of " Babu Moger
2025-02-06 18:48   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-10 19:46     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-19 16:07   ` Dave Martin
2025-02-19 17:43     ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-20 14:57       ` Dave Martin
2025-02-20  0:34     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-20 15:21       ` Dave Martin
2025-02-20 20:57         ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-21 15:53           ` Dave Martin
2025-02-21 20:16             ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-21 18:07   ` James Morse
2025-02-24 20:49     ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-03 14:54 ` [PATCH v11 00/23] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Peter Newman
2025-02-03 20:49   ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-13 17:51     ` Dave Martin
2025-02-13 18:08       ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-12 17:46 ` Dave Martin
2025-02-12 23:33   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-12 23:40     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-13  0:11     ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-13 17:56       ` Dave Martin
2025-02-13 17:37     ` Dave Martin
2025-02-14  6:26       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-14 18:31         ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-14 19:18           ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-14 19:51             ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-17 10:26             ` Peter Newman [this message]
2025-02-17 16:45               ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-18 12:30                 ` Dave Martin
2025-02-18 15:39                   ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-18 18:14                     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-18 19:32                       ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-18 21:29                         ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-19 12:26                           ` Dave Martin
2025-02-19 12:24                     ` Dave Martin
2025-02-18 16:51                 ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-18 18:27                   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-18 19:08                     ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-18 21:32                       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-18 17:49               ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-19 11:28                 ` Peter Newman
2025-02-19 12:26                   ` Dave Martin
2025-02-19 17:56                   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-20 14:53                     ` Peter Newman
2025-02-20 18:36                       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-21 13:12                         ` Peter Newman
2025-02-21 22:43                           ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-25 17:11                             ` Peter Newman
2025-02-25 21:31                               ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-26 13:27                                 ` Peter Newman
2025-02-26 16:25                                   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-26 17:12                                     ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-03 19:16                                   ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-04 16:44                                     ` Peter Newman
2025-03-04 21:49                                       ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-05 10:40                                         ` Peter Newman
2025-03-05 19:34                                           ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-10 22:48                                             ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-10 23:22                                               ` Luck, Tony
2025-03-11  1:44                                                 ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-11  3:51                                                   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-03-11 20:35                                                     ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-11 20:53                                                       ` Luck, Tony
2025-03-12 15:14                                                         ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-12 15:15                                                         ` Reinette Chatre
2025-03-12 15:07                                                       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-03-12 16:03                                                         ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-12 17:14                                                           ` Reinette Chatre
2025-03-12 18:14                                                             ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-13 16:08                                                               ` Reinette Chatre
2025-03-13 20:13                                                                 ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-13 20:36                                                                   ` Luck, Tony
2025-03-14 14:49                                                                     ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-13 21:21                                                                   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-03-14 16:18                                                                     ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-19 18:36                                                                       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-03-20 18:12                                                                         ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-20 22:35                                                                           ` Reinette Chatre
2025-03-21  0:35                                                                             ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-17 16:27                                                                     ` Peter Newman
2025-03-17 23:00                                                                       ` Moger, Babu
2025-03-19 20:53                                                                         ` Reinette Chatre
2025-03-20 20:29                                                                           ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-25 21:41                               ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-20 16:46                     ` Dave Martin
2025-02-20 17:46                       ` Dave Martin
2025-02-20 18:36                         ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-21 16:47                           ` Dave Martin
2025-02-21 22:43                             ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-13 16:19   ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-13 18:18     ` Dave Martin
2025-02-13 18:39       ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-14  6:34         ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-14  7:23           ` Reinette Chatre
2025-02-21 18:07 ` James Morse

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