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From: Peter Newman <peternewman@google.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
Cc: Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>,
	corbet@lwn.net, fenghua.yu@intel.com,  tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de,  dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/15] x86/resctrl : Support AMD QoS RMID Pinning feature
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2023 11:45:54 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALPaoCjNgv4rFpbovyayNynuAqYGP0rVLv=djVnDO1LR+zU55g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d97cbeba-af6d-4b64-b5c8-32dc437a67b6@intel.com>

On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 3:17 PM Reinette Chatre
<reinette.chatre@intel.com> wrote:
> On 11/30/2023 4:57 PM, Babu Moger wrote:
> > c. Read the monitor states. There will be new file "monitor_state"
> >    for each monitor group when ABMC feature is enabled. By default,
> >    both total and local MBM events are in "unassign" state.
> >
> >       #cat /sys/fs/resctrl/monitor_state
> >       total=unassign;local=unassign
> >
> > d. Read the event mbm_total_bytes and mbm_local_bytes. Note that MBA
> >    events are not available until the user assigns the events explicitly.
> >    Users need to assign the counters to monitor the events in this mode.
> >
> >       #cat /sys/fs/resctrl/mon_data/mon_L3_00/mbm_total_bytes
> >       Unavailable
>
> How is the llc_occupancy event impacted when ABMC is enabled? Can all RMIDs
> still be used to track cache occupancy?
>
> >
> >       #cat /sys/fs/resctrl/mon_data/mon_L3_00/mbm_local_bytes
> >       Unavailable
>
> I believe that "Unavailable" already has an accepted meaning within current
> interface and is associated with temporary failure. Even the AMD spec states "This
> is generally a temporary condition and subsequent reads may succeed". In the
> scenario above there is no chance that this counter would produce a value later.
> I do not think it is ideal to overload existing interface with different meanings
> associated with a new hardware specific feature ... something like "Disabled" seems
> more appropriate.

Could we hide event counter files if they're not enabled? Is there
value in displaying the value of a non-running counter that will be
reset the next time it's enabled?


>
> Considering this we may even consider using these files themselves as a
> way to enable the counters if they are disabled. For example, just
> "echo 1 > /sys/fs/resctrl/mon_data/mon_L3_00/mbm_total_bytes" can be used
> to enable this counter. No need for a new "monitor_state". Please note that this
> is not an official proposal since there are two other use cases that still need to
> be considered as we await James's feedback on how this may work for MPAM and
> also how this may be useful on AMD hardware that does not support ABMC but
> users may want to get similar benefits ([1])

We plan to use the ABMC counters as a window to sample the MB/s rate
of a very large number of groups, so there's a serious concern about
the number of write syscalls this will take, as they will add up
quickly for a large RMID*domain count.

To that end, the ideal would be the ability to re-assign all ABMC
counters on all domains in a single system call.

-Peter

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-12-08 19:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 145+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-01  0:57 [PATCH 00/15] x86/resctrl : Support AMD QoS RMID Pinning feature Babu Moger
2023-12-01  0:57 ` [PATCH 01/15] x86/resctrl: Remove hard-coded memory bandwidth limit Babu Moger
2023-12-05 23:18   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-06 16:29     ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-06 17:09       ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-06 17:37         ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-01  0:57 ` [PATCH 02/15] x86/resctrl: Remove hard-coded memory bandwidth event configuration Babu Moger
2023-12-05 23:21   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-06 17:17     ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-06 18:32       ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-06 19:17         ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-07 19:02           ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-07 23:37             ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-01  0:57 ` [PATCH 03/15] x86/resctrl: Add support for Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Babu Moger
2023-12-01  0:57 ` [PATCH 04/15] x86/resctrl: Add ABMC feature in the command line options Babu Moger
2023-12-01  0:57 ` [PATCH 05/15] x86/resctrl: Detect ABMC feature details Babu Moger
2023-12-01  0:57 ` [PATCH 06/15] x86/resctrl: Add the mount option for ABMC feature Babu Moger
2023-12-01  0:57 ` [PATCH 07/15] x86/resctrl: Add support to enable/disable " Babu Moger
2023-12-05 16:48   ` kernel test robot
2023-12-05 17:40     ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-05 18:50   ` kernel test robot
2023-12-01  0:57 ` [PATCH 08/15] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to display number of ABMC counters Babu Moger
2023-12-01  0:57 ` [PATCH 09/15] x86/resctrl: Add interface to display monitor state of the group Babu Moger
2023-12-01  0:57 ` [PATCH 10/15] x86/resctrl: Initialize ABMC counters bitmap Babu Moger
2023-12-01  0:57 ` [PATCH 11/15] x86/resctrl: Add data structures for ABMC assignment Babu Moger
2023-12-01  0:57 ` [PATCH 12/15] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_total_cfg and mbm_local_cfg Babu Moger
2023-12-01  0:57 ` [PATCH 13/15] x86/resctrl: Add the interface to assign a ABMC counter Babu Moger
2023-12-01  0:57 ` [PATCH 14/15] x86/resctrl: Add interface unassign " Babu Moger
2023-12-05 17:55   ` kernel test robot
2023-12-05 18:09     ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-01  0:57 ` [PATCH 15/15] x86/resctrl: Update ABMC assignment on event configuration changes Babu Moger
2023-12-05  0:13 ` [PATCH 00/15] x86/resctrl : Support AMD QoS RMID Pinning feature Peter Newman
2023-12-05 23:17 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-06 15:40   ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-06 18:49     ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-07 16:12       ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-07 19:29         ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-07 23:07           ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-07 23:26             ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-07 23:34               ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-08 22:58           ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-08 19:45   ` Peter Newman [this message]
2023-12-08 20:09     ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-12 18:02 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] x86/resctrl: Remove hard-coded memory bandwidth limit Babu Moger
2023-12-15  2:20   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-01-02 19:52     ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-12 18:02 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] x86/resctrl: Remove hard-coded memory bandwidth event configuration Babu Moger
2023-12-15  1:24   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-01-02 20:00     ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-03 18:38       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-01-03 21:03         ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-03 21:40           ` Reinette Chatre
2024-01-04 13:48             ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-04 21:21 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] x86/resctrl: Remove hard-coded memory bandwidth limit Babu Moger
2024-01-05 21:14   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-01-05 23:51     ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-04 21:21 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] x86/resctrl: Remove hard-coded memory bandwidth event configuration Babu Moger
2024-01-05 21:18   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-01-06  0:13     ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] x86/resctrl: Remove hard-coded memory bandwidth limit Babu Moger
2024-01-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] x86/resctrl: Read supported bandwidth sources using CPUID command Babu Moger
2024-01-12 19:02   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-01-12 20:38     ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-12 21:24       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-01-12 21:54         ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] x86/resctrl: Remove hard-coded memory bandwidth limit Babu Moger
2024-01-23 10:36   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-01-23 14:58     ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] x86/resctrl: Read supported bandwidth sources using CPUID command Babu Moger
2024-01-16 19:44   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-01-16 21:39     ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 00/17] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22   ` [PATCH v2 01/17] x86/cpufeatures: Add word 21 for scattered CPUID features Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22   ` [PATCH v2 02/17] x86/resctrl: Add support for Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22   ` [PATCH v2 03/17] x86/resctrl: Add ABMC feature in the command line options Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22   ` [PATCH v2 04/17] x86/resctrl: Detect Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring feature details Babu Moger
2024-02-20 17:56     ` James Morse
2024-02-20 21:27       ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-19 18:22   ` [PATCH v2 05/17] x86/resctrl: Introduce resctrl_file_fflags_init Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22   ` [PATCH v2 06/17] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to display number of ABMC counters Babu Moger
2024-02-20 18:14     ` James Morse
2024-02-20 21:23       ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-19 18:22   ` [PATCH v2 07/17] x86/resctrl: Add support to enable/disable ABMC feature Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22   ` [PATCH v2 08/17] x86/resctrl: Introduce the interface to display ABMC state Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22   ` [PATCH v2 09/17] x86/resctrl: Introdruce rdtgroup_assign_enable_write Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22   ` [PATCH v2 10/17] x86/resctrl: Add interface to display monitor state of the group Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22   ` [PATCH v2 11/17] x86/resctrl: Report Unsupported when MBM events are read Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22   ` [PATCH v2 12/17] x86/resctrl: Initialize assignable counters bitmap Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22   ` [PATCH v2 13/17] x86/resctrl: Add data structures for ABMC assignment Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22   ` [PATCH v2 14/17] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_total_cfg and mbm_local_cfg Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22   ` [PATCH v2 15/17] x86/resctrl: Add the interface to assign the RMID Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22   ` [PATCH v2 16/17] x86/resctrl: Add the interface unassign " Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22   ` [PATCH v2 17/17] x86/resctrl: Update RMID assignments on event configuration changes Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:32   ` [PATCH v2 00/17] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Reinette Chatre
2024-01-19 20:35     ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-02  4:09   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-02-02  5:01     ` Reinette Chatre
2024-02-02 21:57     ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-05 22:38       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-02-08 17:29         ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-16 20:18           ` Peter Newman
2024-02-19 18:00             ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-20 15:21             ` James Morse
2024-02-20 18:11               ` Peter Newman
2024-02-23 21:47                 ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-20 15:21   ` James Morse
2024-02-20 18:14     ` James Morse
2024-02-20 20:48     ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-23 17:17       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-02-23 20:11         ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-23 22:21           ` Reinette Chatre
2024-02-26 17:59             ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-26 21:20               ` Reinette Chatre
2024-02-27 18:12                 ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-27 18:26                   ` Peter Newman
2024-02-27 19:37                     ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-27 20:06                       ` Peter Newman
2024-02-27 20:42                         ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-27 23:50                   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-02-28 17:59                     ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-28 20:04                       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-02-29 20:37                         ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-29 21:50                           ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-01 20:36                             ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-01 23:20                               ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-04 19:34                                 ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-04 19:58                                   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-04 22:24                                     ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-05 14:58                                       ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-05 17:12                                       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-05 19:35                                         ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-07 18:57                                       ` Peter Newman
2024-03-07 20:41                                         ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-07 22:33                                           ` Peter Newman
2024-03-07 22:53                                             ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-07 23:14                                               ` Peter Newman
2024-03-08 17:13                                                 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-08  3:50                                               ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-08 17:20                                                 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-12 13:30                                                   ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-11 15:40                     ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-12 15:13                       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-12 17:07                         ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-12 17:15                           ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-12 17:24                             ` Moger, Babu

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