From: Peter Newman <peternewman@google.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
Cc: Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/15] x86/resctrl : Support AMD QoS RMID Pinning feature
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2023 11:45:54 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALPaoCjNgv4rFpbovyayNynuAqYGP0rVLv=djVnDO1LR+zU55g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d97cbeba-af6d-4b64-b5c8-32dc437a67b6@intel.com>
On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 3:17 PM Reinette Chatre
<reinette.chatre@intel.com> wrote:
> On 11/30/2023 4:57 PM, Babu Moger wrote:
> > c. Read the monitor states. There will be new file "monitor_state"
> > for each monitor group when ABMC feature is enabled. By default,
> > both total and local MBM events are in "unassign" state.
> >
> > #cat /sys/fs/resctrl/monitor_state
> > total=unassign;local=unassign
> >
> > d. Read the event mbm_total_bytes and mbm_local_bytes. Note that MBA
> > events are not available until the user assigns the events explicitly.
> > Users need to assign the counters to monitor the events in this mode.
> >
> > #cat /sys/fs/resctrl/mon_data/mon_L3_00/mbm_total_bytes
> > Unavailable
>
> How is the llc_occupancy event impacted when ABMC is enabled? Can all RMIDs
> still be used to track cache occupancy?
>
> >
> > #cat /sys/fs/resctrl/mon_data/mon_L3_00/mbm_local_bytes
> > Unavailable
>
> I believe that "Unavailable" already has an accepted meaning within current
> interface and is associated with temporary failure. Even the AMD spec states "This
> is generally a temporary condition and subsequent reads may succeed". In the
> scenario above there is no chance that this counter would produce a value later.
> I do not think it is ideal to overload existing interface with different meanings
> associated with a new hardware specific feature ... something like "Disabled" seems
> more appropriate.
Could we hide event counter files if they're not enabled? Is there
value in displaying the value of a non-running counter that will be
reset the next time it's enabled?
>
> Considering this we may even consider using these files themselves as a
> way to enable the counters if they are disabled. For example, just
> "echo 1 > /sys/fs/resctrl/mon_data/mon_L3_00/mbm_total_bytes" can be used
> to enable this counter. No need for a new "monitor_state". Please note that this
> is not an official proposal since there are two other use cases that still need to
> be considered as we await James's feedback on how this may work for MPAM and
> also how this may be useful on AMD hardware that does not support ABMC but
> users may want to get similar benefits ([1])
We plan to use the ABMC counters as a window to sample the MB/s rate
of a very large number of groups, so there's a serious concern about
the number of write syscalls this will take, as they will add up
quickly for a large RMID*domain count.
To that end, the ideal would be the ability to re-assign all ABMC
counters on all domains in a single system call.
-Peter
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-12-08 19:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 145+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-12-01 0:57 [PATCH 00/15] x86/resctrl : Support AMD QoS RMID Pinning feature Babu Moger
2023-12-01 0:57 ` [PATCH 01/15] x86/resctrl: Remove hard-coded memory bandwidth limit Babu Moger
2023-12-05 23:18 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-06 16:29 ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-06 17:09 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-06 17:37 ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-01 0:57 ` [PATCH 02/15] x86/resctrl: Remove hard-coded memory bandwidth event configuration Babu Moger
2023-12-05 23:21 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-06 17:17 ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-06 18:32 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-06 19:17 ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-07 19:02 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-07 23:37 ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-01 0:57 ` [PATCH 03/15] x86/resctrl: Add support for Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Babu Moger
2023-12-01 0:57 ` [PATCH 04/15] x86/resctrl: Add ABMC feature in the command line options Babu Moger
2023-12-01 0:57 ` [PATCH 05/15] x86/resctrl: Detect ABMC feature details Babu Moger
2023-12-01 0:57 ` [PATCH 06/15] x86/resctrl: Add the mount option for ABMC feature Babu Moger
2023-12-01 0:57 ` [PATCH 07/15] x86/resctrl: Add support to enable/disable " Babu Moger
2023-12-05 16:48 ` kernel test robot
2023-12-05 17:40 ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-05 18:50 ` kernel test robot
2023-12-01 0:57 ` [PATCH 08/15] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to display number of ABMC counters Babu Moger
2023-12-01 0:57 ` [PATCH 09/15] x86/resctrl: Add interface to display monitor state of the group Babu Moger
2023-12-01 0:57 ` [PATCH 10/15] x86/resctrl: Initialize ABMC counters bitmap Babu Moger
2023-12-01 0:57 ` [PATCH 11/15] x86/resctrl: Add data structures for ABMC assignment Babu Moger
2023-12-01 0:57 ` [PATCH 12/15] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_total_cfg and mbm_local_cfg Babu Moger
2023-12-01 0:57 ` [PATCH 13/15] x86/resctrl: Add the interface to assign a ABMC counter Babu Moger
2023-12-01 0:57 ` [PATCH 14/15] x86/resctrl: Add interface unassign " Babu Moger
2023-12-05 17:55 ` kernel test robot
2023-12-05 18:09 ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-01 0:57 ` [PATCH 15/15] x86/resctrl: Update ABMC assignment on event configuration changes Babu Moger
2023-12-05 0:13 ` [PATCH 00/15] x86/resctrl : Support AMD QoS RMID Pinning feature Peter Newman
2023-12-05 23:17 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-06 15:40 ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-06 18:49 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-07 16:12 ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-07 19:29 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-07 23:07 ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-07 23:26 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-07 23:34 ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-08 22:58 ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-08 19:45 ` Peter Newman [this message]
2023-12-08 20:09 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-12-12 18:02 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] x86/resctrl: Remove hard-coded memory bandwidth limit Babu Moger
2023-12-15 2:20 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-01-02 19:52 ` Moger, Babu
2023-12-12 18:02 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] x86/resctrl: Remove hard-coded memory bandwidth event configuration Babu Moger
2023-12-15 1:24 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-01-02 20:00 ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-03 18:38 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-01-03 21:03 ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-03 21:40 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-01-04 13:48 ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-04 21:21 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] x86/resctrl: Remove hard-coded memory bandwidth limit Babu Moger
2024-01-05 21:14 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-01-05 23:51 ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-04 21:21 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] x86/resctrl: Remove hard-coded memory bandwidth event configuration Babu Moger
2024-01-05 21:18 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-01-06 0:13 ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] x86/resctrl: Remove hard-coded memory bandwidth limit Babu Moger
2024-01-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] x86/resctrl: Read supported bandwidth sources using CPUID command Babu Moger
2024-01-12 19:02 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-01-12 20:38 ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-12 21:24 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-01-12 21:54 ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] x86/resctrl: Remove hard-coded memory bandwidth limit Babu Moger
2024-01-23 10:36 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-01-23 14:58 ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-15 22:52 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] x86/resctrl: Read supported bandwidth sources using CPUID command Babu Moger
2024-01-16 19:44 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-01-16 21:39 ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 00/17] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 01/17] x86/cpufeatures: Add word 21 for scattered CPUID features Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 02/17] x86/resctrl: Add support for Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 03/17] x86/resctrl: Add ABMC feature in the command line options Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 04/17] x86/resctrl: Detect Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring feature details Babu Moger
2024-02-20 17:56 ` James Morse
2024-02-20 21:27 ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 05/17] x86/resctrl: Introduce resctrl_file_fflags_init Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 06/17] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to display number of ABMC counters Babu Moger
2024-02-20 18:14 ` James Morse
2024-02-20 21:23 ` Moger, Babu
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 07/17] x86/resctrl: Add support to enable/disable ABMC feature Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 08/17] x86/resctrl: Introduce the interface to display ABMC state Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 09/17] x86/resctrl: Introdruce rdtgroup_assign_enable_write Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 10/17] x86/resctrl: Add interface to display monitor state of the group Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 11/17] x86/resctrl: Report Unsupported when MBM events are read Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 12/17] x86/resctrl: Initialize assignable counters bitmap Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 13/17] x86/resctrl: Add data structures for ABMC assignment Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 14/17] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_total_cfg and mbm_local_cfg Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 15/17] x86/resctrl: Add the interface to assign the RMID Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 16/17] x86/resctrl: Add the interface unassign " Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 17/17] x86/resctrl: Update RMID assignments on event configuration changes Babu Moger
2024-01-19 18:32 ` [PATCH v2 00/17] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Reinette Chatre
2024-01-19 20:35 ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-02 4:09 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-02-02 5:01 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-02-02 21:57 ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-05 22:38 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-02-08 17:29 ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-16 20:18 ` Peter Newman
2024-02-19 18:00 ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-20 15:21 ` James Morse
2024-02-20 18:11 ` Peter Newman
2024-02-23 21:47 ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-20 15:21 ` James Morse
2024-02-20 18:14 ` James Morse
2024-02-20 20:48 ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-23 17:17 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-02-23 20:11 ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-23 22:21 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-02-26 17:59 ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-26 21:20 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-02-27 18:12 ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-27 18:26 ` Peter Newman
2024-02-27 19:37 ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-27 20:06 ` Peter Newman
2024-02-27 20:42 ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-27 23:50 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-02-28 17:59 ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-28 20:04 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-02-29 20:37 ` Moger, Babu
2024-02-29 21:50 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-01 20:36 ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-01 23:20 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-04 19:34 ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-04 19:58 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-04 22:24 ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-05 14:58 ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-05 17:12 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-05 19:35 ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-07 18:57 ` Peter Newman
2024-03-07 20:41 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-07 22:33 ` Peter Newman
2024-03-07 22:53 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-07 23:14 ` Peter Newman
2024-03-08 17:13 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-08 3:50 ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-08 17:20 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-12 13:30 ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-11 15:40 ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-12 15:13 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-12 17:07 ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-12 17:15 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-12 17:24 ` Moger, Babu
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