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From: Xiao Ni <xni@redhat.com>
To: Yu Kuai <yukuai1@huaweicloud.com>
Cc: hch@lst.de, colyli@kernel.org, song@kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, yi.zhang@huawei.com,
	 yangerkun@huawei.com, johnny.chenyi@huawei.com,
	 "yukuai (C)" <yukuai3@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 16/23] md/md-llbitmap: implement bit state machine
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2025 09:55:53 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALTww2820X=HU3Zuu+z19oCaPL+oQ4bMNostoAgfDk1-3nB3aQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <93166d88-710f-c416-b009-5d57f870b152@huaweicloud.com>

On Mon, Jun 30, 2025 at 7:05 PM Yu Kuai <yukuai1@huaweicloud.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> 在 2025/06/30 16:25, Xiao Ni 写道:
> > On Mon, Jun 30, 2025 at 10:25 AM Yu Kuai <yukuai1@huaweicloud.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> 在 2025/06/30 10:14, Xiao Ni 写道:
> >>> For reload action, it runs continue here.
> >>
> >> No one can concurent with reload.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> And doesn't it need a lock when reading the state?
> >>
> >> Notice that from IO path, all concurrent context are doing the same
> >> thing, it doesn't matter if old state or new state are read. If old
> >> state is read, it will write new state in memory again; if new state is
> >> read, it just do nothing.
> >
> > Hi Kuai
> >
> > This is the last place that I don't understand well. Is it the reason
> > that it only changes one byte at a time and the system can guarantee
> > the atomic when updating one byte?
> >
> > If so, it only needs to concern the old and new data you mentioned
> > above. For example:
> > raid1 is created without --assume-clean, so all bits are BitUnwritten.
> > And a write bio comes, the bit changes to dirty. Then a discard is
> > submitted in another cpu context and it reads the old status
> > unwritten. From the status change table, the discard doesn't do
> > anything. In fact, discard should update dirty to unwritten. Can such
> > a case happen?
>
> This can happen for raw disk, however, if there are filesystem, discard
> and write can never race. And for raw disk, if user really issue write
> and discard concurrently, the result really is uncertain, and it's fine
> the bit result in dirty or unwritten.

Hi Kuai

If there is a filesystem and the write io returns. The discard must
see the memory changes without any memory barrier apis?

Regards
Xiao
>
> Thanks,
> Kuai
>
> >
> > Regards
> > Xiao
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Kuai
> >>
> >
> >
> > .
> >
>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-07-01  1:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-24  6:12 [PATCH 00/23] md/llbitmap: md/md-llbitmap: introduce a new lockless bitmap Yu Kuai
2025-05-24  6:12 ` [PATCH 01/23] md: add a new parameter 'offset' to md_super_write() Yu Kuai
2025-05-25 15:50   ` Xiao Ni
2025-05-26  6:28   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-26  7:28     ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-27  5:54   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-24  6:12 ` [PATCH 02/23] md: factor out a helper raid_is_456() Yu Kuai
2025-05-25 15:50   ` Xiao Ni
2025-05-26  6:28   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-27  5:55   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-24  6:13 ` [PATCH 03/23] md/md-bitmap: cleanup bitmap_ops->startwrite() Yu Kuai
2025-05-25 15:51   ` Xiao Ni
2025-05-26  6:29   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-27  5:56   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-24  6:13 ` [PATCH 04/23] md/md-bitmap: support discard for bitmap ops Yu Kuai
2025-05-25 15:53   ` Xiao Ni
2025-05-26  6:29   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-27  6:01   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-28  7:04   ` Glass Su
2025-05-24  6:13 ` [PATCH 05/23] md/md-bitmap: remove parameter slot from bitmap_create() Yu Kuai
2025-05-25 16:09   ` Xiao Ni
2025-05-26  6:30   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-27  6:01   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-24  6:13 ` [PATCH 06/23] md/md-bitmap: add a new sysfs api bitmap_type Yu Kuai
2025-05-25 16:32   ` Xiao Ni
2025-05-26  1:13     ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-26  5:11       ` Xiao Ni
2025-05-26  8:02         ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-26  6:32   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-26  7:45     ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-27  8:21       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-27  6:10   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-27  7:43     ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-24  6:13 ` [PATCH 07/23] md/md-bitmap: delay registration of bitmap_ops until creating bitmap Yu Kuai
2025-05-26  6:32   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-26  6:52   ` Xiao Ni
2025-05-26  7:57     ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-27  2:15       ` Xiao Ni
2025-05-27  2:49         ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-27  6:13   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-27  7:53     ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-27  8:54       ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-24  6:13 ` [PATCH 08/23] md/md-bitmap: add a new method skip_sync_blocks() in bitmap_operations Yu Kuai
2025-05-26  7:03   ` Xiao Ni
2025-05-27  6:14   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-24  6:13 ` [PATCH 09/23] md/md-bitmap: add a new method blocks_synced() " Yu Kuai
2025-05-27  2:35   ` Xiao Ni
2025-05-27  2:48     ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-27  6:16   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-24  6:13 ` [PATCH 10/23] md: add a new recovery_flag MD_RECOVERY_LAZY_RECOVER Yu Kuai
2025-05-27  6:17   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-27  8:00     ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-24  6:13 ` [PATCH 11/23] md/md-bitmap: make method bitmap_ops->daemon_work optional Yu Kuai
2025-05-26  6:34   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-27  6:19   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-27  8:03     ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-27  8:55       ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-24  6:13 ` [PATCH 12/23] md/md-bitmap: add macros for lockless bitmap Yu Kuai
2025-05-26  6:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-26  8:12     ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-27  8:22       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-27  6:21   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-28  4:53   ` Xiao Ni
2025-05-24  6:13 ` [PATCH 13/23] md/md-bitmap: fix dm-raid max_write_behind setting Yu Kuai
2025-05-26  6:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-27  6:21   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-24  6:13 ` [PATCH 14/23] md/dm-raid: remove max_write_behind setting limit Yu Kuai
2025-05-26  6:41   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-27  6:26   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-28  4:58   ` Xiao Ni
2025-05-24  6:13 ` [PATCH 15/23] md/md-llbitmap: implement llbitmap IO Yu Kuai
2025-05-27  8:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-27  8:55     ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-27  8:58       ` Yu Kuai
2025-06-06  3:21   ` Xiao Ni
2025-06-06  3:48     ` Yu Kuai
2025-06-06  6:24       ` Xiao Ni
2025-06-06  8:56         ` Yu Kuai
2025-06-30  2:07   ` Xiao Ni
2025-06-30  2:17     ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-24  6:13 ` [PATCH 16/23] md/md-llbitmap: implement bit state machine Yu Kuai
2025-06-30  2:14   ` Xiao Ni
2025-06-30  2:25     ` Yu Kuai
2025-06-30  8:25       ` Xiao Ni
2025-06-30 11:05         ` Yu Kuai
2025-06-30 11:30           ` Yu Kuai
2025-07-01  1:55           ` Xiao Ni [this message]
2025-07-01  2:02             ` Yu Kuai
2025-07-01  2:31               ` Xiao Ni
2025-05-24  6:13 ` [PATCH 17/23] md/md-llbitmap: implement APIs for page level dirty bits synchronization Yu Kuai
2025-05-24  6:13 ` [PATCH 18/23] md/md-llbitmap: implement APIs to mange bitmap lifetime Yu Kuai
2025-05-29  7:03   ` Xiao Ni
2025-05-29  9:03     ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-24  6:13 ` [PATCH 19/23] md/md-llbitmap: implement APIs to dirty bits and clear bits Yu Kuai
2025-05-24  6:13 ` [PATCH 20/23] md/md-llbitmap: implement APIs for sync_thread Yu Kuai
2025-05-24  6:13 ` [PATCH 21/23] md/md-llbitmap: implement all bitmap operations Yu Kuai
2025-05-24  6:13 ` [PATCH 22/23] md/md-llbitmap: implement sysfs APIs Yu Kuai
2025-05-24  6:13 ` [PATCH 23/23] md/md-llbitmap: add Kconfig Yu Kuai
2025-05-27  8:29   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-27  9:00     ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-24  7:07 ` [PATCH 00/23] md/llbitmap: md/md-llbitmap: introduce a new lockless bitmap Yu Kuai
2025-05-30  6:45 ` Yu Kuai
2025-06-30  1:59 ` Xiao Ni
2025-06-30  2:34   ` Yu Kuai
2025-06-30  3:25     ` Xiao Ni
2025-06-30  3:46       ` Yu Kuai
2025-06-30  5:38         ` Xiao Ni
2025-06-30  6:09           ` Yu Kuai

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