From: Xiao Ni <xni@redhat.com>
To: Yu Kuai <yukuai1@huaweicloud.com>
Cc: hch@lst.de, colyli@kernel.org, song@kernel.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, yi.zhang@huawei.com,
yangerkun@huawei.com, johnny.chenyi@huawei.com,
"yukuai (C)" <yukuai3@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 16/23] md/md-llbitmap: implement bit state machine
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2025 09:55:53 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALTww2820X=HU3Zuu+z19oCaPL+oQ4bMNostoAgfDk1-3nB3aQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <93166d88-710f-c416-b009-5d57f870b152@huaweicloud.com>
On Mon, Jun 30, 2025 at 7:05 PM Yu Kuai <yukuai1@huaweicloud.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> 在 2025/06/30 16:25, Xiao Ni 写道:
> > On Mon, Jun 30, 2025 at 10:25 AM Yu Kuai <yukuai1@huaweicloud.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> 在 2025/06/30 10:14, Xiao Ni 写道:
> >>> For reload action, it runs continue here.
> >>
> >> No one can concurent with reload.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> And doesn't it need a lock when reading the state?
> >>
> >> Notice that from IO path, all concurrent context are doing the same
> >> thing, it doesn't matter if old state or new state are read. If old
> >> state is read, it will write new state in memory again; if new state is
> >> read, it just do nothing.
> >
> > Hi Kuai
> >
> > This is the last place that I don't understand well. Is it the reason
> > that it only changes one byte at a time and the system can guarantee
> > the atomic when updating one byte?
> >
> > If so, it only needs to concern the old and new data you mentioned
> > above. For example:
> > raid1 is created without --assume-clean, so all bits are BitUnwritten.
> > And a write bio comes, the bit changes to dirty. Then a discard is
> > submitted in another cpu context and it reads the old status
> > unwritten. From the status change table, the discard doesn't do
> > anything. In fact, discard should update dirty to unwritten. Can such
> > a case happen?
>
> This can happen for raw disk, however, if there are filesystem, discard
> and write can never race. And for raw disk, if user really issue write
> and discard concurrently, the result really is uncertain, and it's fine
> the bit result in dirty or unwritten.
Hi Kuai
If there is a filesystem and the write io returns. The discard must
see the memory changes without any memory barrier apis?
Regards
Xiao
>
> Thanks,
> Kuai
>
> >
> > Regards
> > Xiao
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Kuai
> >>
> >
> >
> > .
> >
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-01 1:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-24 6:12 [PATCH 00/23] md/llbitmap: md/md-llbitmap: introduce a new lockless bitmap Yu Kuai
2025-05-24 6:12 ` [PATCH 01/23] md: add a new parameter 'offset' to md_super_write() Yu Kuai
2025-05-25 15:50 ` Xiao Ni
2025-05-26 6:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-26 7:28 ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-27 5:54 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-24 6:12 ` [PATCH 02/23] md: factor out a helper raid_is_456() Yu Kuai
2025-05-25 15:50 ` Xiao Ni
2025-05-26 6:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-27 5:55 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-24 6:13 ` [PATCH 03/23] md/md-bitmap: cleanup bitmap_ops->startwrite() Yu Kuai
2025-05-25 15:51 ` Xiao Ni
2025-05-26 6:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-27 5:56 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-24 6:13 ` [PATCH 04/23] md/md-bitmap: support discard for bitmap ops Yu Kuai
2025-05-25 15:53 ` Xiao Ni
2025-05-26 6:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-27 6:01 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-28 7:04 ` Glass Su
2025-05-24 6:13 ` [PATCH 05/23] md/md-bitmap: remove parameter slot from bitmap_create() Yu Kuai
2025-05-25 16:09 ` Xiao Ni
2025-05-26 6:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-27 6:01 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-24 6:13 ` [PATCH 06/23] md/md-bitmap: add a new sysfs api bitmap_type Yu Kuai
2025-05-25 16:32 ` Xiao Ni
2025-05-26 1:13 ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-26 5:11 ` Xiao Ni
2025-05-26 8:02 ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-26 6:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-26 7:45 ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-27 8:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-27 6:10 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-27 7:43 ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-24 6:13 ` [PATCH 07/23] md/md-bitmap: delay registration of bitmap_ops until creating bitmap Yu Kuai
2025-05-26 6:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-26 6:52 ` Xiao Ni
2025-05-26 7:57 ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-27 2:15 ` Xiao Ni
2025-05-27 2:49 ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-27 6:13 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-27 7:53 ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-27 8:54 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-24 6:13 ` [PATCH 08/23] md/md-bitmap: add a new method skip_sync_blocks() in bitmap_operations Yu Kuai
2025-05-26 7:03 ` Xiao Ni
2025-05-27 6:14 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-24 6:13 ` [PATCH 09/23] md/md-bitmap: add a new method blocks_synced() " Yu Kuai
2025-05-27 2:35 ` Xiao Ni
2025-05-27 2:48 ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-27 6:16 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-24 6:13 ` [PATCH 10/23] md: add a new recovery_flag MD_RECOVERY_LAZY_RECOVER Yu Kuai
2025-05-27 6:17 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-27 8:00 ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-24 6:13 ` [PATCH 11/23] md/md-bitmap: make method bitmap_ops->daemon_work optional Yu Kuai
2025-05-26 6:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-27 6:19 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-27 8:03 ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-27 8:55 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-24 6:13 ` [PATCH 12/23] md/md-bitmap: add macros for lockless bitmap Yu Kuai
2025-05-26 6:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-26 8:12 ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-27 8:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-27 6:21 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-28 4:53 ` Xiao Ni
2025-05-24 6:13 ` [PATCH 13/23] md/md-bitmap: fix dm-raid max_write_behind setting Yu Kuai
2025-05-26 6:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-27 6:21 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-24 6:13 ` [PATCH 14/23] md/dm-raid: remove max_write_behind setting limit Yu Kuai
2025-05-26 6:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-27 6:26 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-28 4:58 ` Xiao Ni
2025-05-24 6:13 ` [PATCH 15/23] md/md-llbitmap: implement llbitmap IO Yu Kuai
2025-05-27 8:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-27 8:55 ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-27 8:58 ` Yu Kuai
2025-06-06 3:21 ` Xiao Ni
2025-06-06 3:48 ` Yu Kuai
2025-06-06 6:24 ` Xiao Ni
2025-06-06 8:56 ` Yu Kuai
2025-06-30 2:07 ` Xiao Ni
2025-06-30 2:17 ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-24 6:13 ` [PATCH 16/23] md/md-llbitmap: implement bit state machine Yu Kuai
2025-06-30 2:14 ` Xiao Ni
2025-06-30 2:25 ` Yu Kuai
2025-06-30 8:25 ` Xiao Ni
2025-06-30 11:05 ` Yu Kuai
2025-06-30 11:30 ` Yu Kuai
2025-07-01 1:55 ` Xiao Ni [this message]
2025-07-01 2:02 ` Yu Kuai
2025-07-01 2:31 ` Xiao Ni
2025-05-24 6:13 ` [PATCH 17/23] md/md-llbitmap: implement APIs for page level dirty bits synchronization Yu Kuai
2025-05-24 6:13 ` [PATCH 18/23] md/md-llbitmap: implement APIs to mange bitmap lifetime Yu Kuai
2025-05-29 7:03 ` Xiao Ni
2025-05-29 9:03 ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-24 6:13 ` [PATCH 19/23] md/md-llbitmap: implement APIs to dirty bits and clear bits Yu Kuai
2025-05-24 6:13 ` [PATCH 20/23] md/md-llbitmap: implement APIs for sync_thread Yu Kuai
2025-05-24 6:13 ` [PATCH 21/23] md/md-llbitmap: implement all bitmap operations Yu Kuai
2025-05-24 6:13 ` [PATCH 22/23] md/md-llbitmap: implement sysfs APIs Yu Kuai
2025-05-24 6:13 ` [PATCH 23/23] md/md-llbitmap: add Kconfig Yu Kuai
2025-05-27 8:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-27 9:00 ` Yu Kuai
2025-05-24 7:07 ` [PATCH 00/23] md/llbitmap: md/md-llbitmap: introduce a new lockless bitmap Yu Kuai
2025-05-30 6:45 ` Yu Kuai
2025-06-30 1:59 ` Xiao Ni
2025-06-30 2:34 ` Yu Kuai
2025-06-30 3:25 ` Xiao Ni
2025-06-30 3:46 ` Yu Kuai
2025-06-30 5:38 ` Xiao Ni
2025-06-30 6:09 ` Yu Kuai
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